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Just called H&R Springs and they told me that 10mm is not listed for a reason meaning it's not a typo. Also 15mm can't be used on the front axel because of that Note #4 which I mentioned above. I don't want to machine axle cap. All this leaves me with only a few options which is 3mm, 5mm, 15mm (only rear axle) and then 20mm, 25mm and 30mm. I think I may waste $200 on 2 pairs of spacers (like 5mm and 20mm) just to find out they can't make me happy enough. On top of that I'll have to buy longer studs for rear wheels. So it's more complicated than I thought...
 

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Selling wheels is not an option for me! :) I'm keeping my W140 Monoblocks. I guess I'll try to gamble with spacers, not now but in April when I have more funds to spend on such gambling. Worst case I'll put it on eBay and lose some $. Also I could buy some cheap spacers, not H&R just for test purposes. Like this or others:

 

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H&R would definitely know best. I haven't been confronted with this problem on the W140 but am familiar with other chassis like the W126 and 107 having their own wheel fitment peculiarities. It sounds from their language that there is, as in other models, the lip on the front axle that would present a problem. That problem exacerbates the already existent problem of spacers- that is that they push the physical force the wheel is responsible for controlling to a point beyond what the axle and wheel are designed for. This literally is true with any wheel or spacer that goes much beyond 10mm, say 20mm or so, outside (away from) the original factory ET.. But in this case they are saying the reverse is the issue. That the 10mm will not work because it's not able to get enough of itself seated on the axle. BUT THERE IS A SAVING GRACE HERE- Your wheel spec seems to be exactly what it is suppose to be.

Wheel Fasteners: Lug bolts Thread Size: M14 x 1.5
Tire RimPCDbar pressure
235/60R16 104V 7.5Jx16 ET51 5x112 1.9
255/45ZR18 103W 8.5Jx18 ET47 5x112 2.2
235/50ZR18 101W 7.5Jx18 ET51 5x112 2 / 2.2

 

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Fellas, I recently got a set of multi-piece Brabus Monoblock IV wheels which are:
431-858-35-S 8.5J x 18 H2 ET 35 - front
431-958-35-S 9.5J x 18 H2 ET 35 - rear

BTW I scrolled through Brabus magazine and I see they offered lots of different wheels though sizes and offset were usually the same: 8.5x18 ET35 and 9.5x18 ET35.

Rims need some TLC. Tires are pretty low profile tires which I really don't need. I guess I'll have to buy some beefier tires. I think such a heavy car shouldn't ride on low profile tires.

Also with wheels I got Brabus 10mm spacers which also look used. Part number is 003-0022-306. I'm not sure if I'll use spacers or not because I'll have to check fitment first. Also I'm not sure if these spacers were made for W140 or not. I didn't find ANY spacers in Brabus parts and price catalog.

Unfortunately, due to quarantine I'm not sure when I'll buy tires etc. Probably within a couple of months but who knows for how long this uncertainty and recession stay here.

I have a few questions related to Brabus wheels etc:

According to Brabus magazine they recommend same tires 255-45/18 for both 8.5 and 9.5 tires. I'm not sure how spacers will affect fitment. Has anyone installed Brabus wheels 8.5x18 ET 35 and 9.5x18 ET35 with recommended tires 255/45-18 and with 10mm spacers? How bad or good was the fitment? If H&R don't make 10mm spacers for W140 then will Brabus spacers fit W140?
 

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Fellas, I recently got a set of multi-piece Brabus Monoblock IV wheels which are:
431-858-35-S 8.5J x 18 H2 ET 35 - front
431-958-35-S 9.5J x 18 H2 ET 35 - rear

BTW I scrolled through Brabus magazine and I see they offered lots of different wheels though sizes and offset were usually the same: 8.5x18 ET35 and 9.5x18 ET35.

Rims need some TLC. Tires are pretty low profile tires which I really don't need. I guess I'll have to buy some beefier tires. I think such a heavy car shouldn't ride on low profile tires.

Also with wheels I got Brabus 10mm spacers which also look used. Part number is 003-0022-306. I'm not sure if I'll use spacers or not because I'll have to check fitment first. Also I'm not sure if these spacers were made for W140 or not. I didn't find ANY spacers in Brabus parts and price catalog.

Unfortunately, due to quarantine I'm not sure when I'll buy tires etc. Probably within a couple of months but who knows for how long this uncertainty and recession stay here.

I have a few questions related to Brabus wheels etc:

According to Brabus magazine they recommend same tires 255-45/18 for both 8.5 and 9.5 tires. I'm not sure how spacers will affect fitment. Has anyone installed Brabus wheels 8.5x18 ET 35 and 9.5x18 ET35 with recommended tires 255/45-18 and with 10mm spacers? How bad or good was the fitment? If H&R don't make 10mm spacers for W140 then will Brabus spacers fit W140?
Can I ask why are you going to use spacers?? The ET of 35 will put this wheel right at the edge of the chassis. The OEM ET was 50, 51 IIRC. My 18x8.5 ET38 are right on the edge. I posted pics. The tires size is spot on per MB recommendations. I used a plus 2 235/50 because I like the ride it gives me but a 255 or 265/45 has similar sidewall height and the 255/45 more closely aligns with the oem tire diameter= you'll not have a noticeable change in your speedo and the speed you're driving.
 

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Can I ask why are you going to use spacers?? The ET of 35 will put this wheel right at the edge of the chassis. The OEM ET was 50, 51 IIRC. My 18x8.5 ET38 are right on the edge. I posted pics. The tires size is spot on per MB recommendations. I used a plus 2 235/50 because I like the ride it gives me but a 255 or 265/45 has similar sidewall height and the 255/45 more closely aligns with the oem tire diameter= you'll not have a noticeable change in your speedo and the speed you're driving.
Wheel spacers need to be hub centric BUT there is a huge reason HR doesn't make 10mm. They believe it isn't safe for these cars particularly on the rear wheel hub... I believe.
 

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Idk yet. I got wheels with spacers on it. I'll try to play with spacers when I change tires to recommended ones.
I double checked today and I'm about 5mm inside the rear fender well with the camber the car has. I think you should be good without spacers.
 

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I double checked today and I'm about 5mm inside the rear fender well with the camber the car has. I think you should be good without spacers.
I hope too! Can't wait to try these new wheels. But since I need to replace all 4 tires to a proper size tires it may take a while because I really don't want to go to any car shops during this virus outbreak...
 

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Sorry I missed this. I’ve got quite a pile of spacers in Wilmington, but there’s a reason 10 mm spacers don’t exist. MB are hubcentric and need to repeat the hub. 10mm is too thin to do that. Anyway, it looks like you no longer need spacers.

I had run these, but needed to use spacers because I didn’t replace the lug bolts, which are only threaded so far.





Two 9x18 et44 A 220 401 2502
One 9x18 et39 A 211 401 2702
Three 8x18 et30 A 211 401 2602

So ironically, the higher offset w220 wheels went on with no issue because the bolts fit well, but the bolts were too long (or not threaded up far enough) for the w211 wheels. So I had to lower the offset on the low offset wheels and the high offset wheels bolted on fine. No bueno.




Add to the mix what I believe is the front hub. This skinny spacer, maybe a 10mm, just would not sit flush because the inside of the spacer hit the hub before the spacer laid flat on the rotor.






To top it off, those tires were trashed from being used on a drift car. Some kept going flat. I ended up getting four 17” wheels with tires that I bolted on, and even though the tires are too small, it’s better for this car.






And I’m looking to get rid of that car, and the 18” wheels. The tires are such a hassle to mount, I’ve decided to avoid 18” tires altogether from now on. 14-17 only for me.


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AMG Monoblock Aero2
Front: 19x8.5 ET46 255/40R19 - Continental
Rear: 19x9.5 ET46 285/35R19 - Continental
No spacers, stock suspension. No issues






AMG Monoblock Aero2
Front: 19x8.5 ET46 w/ 245/45R19 - Michelin Primacy
Rear: 19x9.5 ET46 w/ 275/40R19 - Michelin Primacy
No spacers, stock suspension. No issues



Carlsson Evo1/6
Front: 19x8.5 w/ 245/40R19 - Michelin
Rear: 19x10 w/ 285/35R19 - Michelin
No spacers, had plastic hubcentric rings and shorter lugs. No rubbing
AMG Monoblock Aero2
Front: 19x8.5 ET46 255/40R19 - Continental
Rear: 19x9.5 ET46 285/35R19 - Continental
No spacers, stock suspension. No issues






AMG Monoblock Aero2
Front: 19x8.5 ET46 w/ 245/45R19 - Michelin Primacy
Rear: 19x9.5 ET46 w/ 275/40R19 - Michelin Primacy
No spacers, stock suspension. No issues



Carlsson Evo1/6
Front: 19x8.5 w/ 245/40R19 - Michelin
Rear: 19x10 w/ 285/35R19 - Michelin
No spacers, had plastic hubcentric rings and shorter lugs. No rubbing
Wow those are some beautifull looking cars, congrats!
 

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Thanks. The 320 and 600 are gone, I’m down to the 500 which will be on 20s as soon as the craziness slows down
 

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Have a lead on 18" monoblocks with the following numbers...
8.5J 18 H2
ET47

Just beginning my research on rim off sets, whats required for a stock height CL500 for these to work... or not

2634556
 

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See that part number? Those are specific to the 140. You wont have problems fitting those. Tires would be 255/45R18s
 

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I have a 1997 w140 and i bought the wrong set of monoblocks size

staggered 8jx18 front and rears 9jx18 rears, will they still fit my w140 considering it is a heavier vehicle? some said get wider tires? you guys have any recommendations?
 

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I have a 1997 w140 and i bought the wrong set of monoblocks size

staggered 8jx18 front and rears 9jx18 rears, will they still fit my w140 considering it is a heavier vehicle? some said get wider tires? you guys have any recommendations?
If the offset is in the 40s, the bore size is 66.56 mmm and if they can accept the correct bolts, I don't see a reason to call them wrong. They are a staggered configuration, where the rear accepts "beefer" tires
 

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Has anyone put the r230 18" AMG (solid) penta on a W140? With pics?
 

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Hi Gents, I am curious if anyone has tried putting on 20x9 et 39 and 20x10 et39 on a W140. Found something locally that is appealing.
Thanks in advance
 
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