[MB-SV]

Sheesh this turbo lag argument must be stopped.
Bottomline:
A properly driven STI will lag from 0-60 in 4.6 seconds. Can we please put that argument to bed already?

No, look at the street start (5-60mph) times, much slower. To do it in 4.6 seconds is very abusive to the equipment.

 

[deeeer]

i'd for for C300
it's a very good buy
as for c350 it's too close to the price of bmw's 335i
and lets admit that does have more power

 

[MB-SV]

i'd for for C300
it's a very good buy
as for c350 it's too close to the price of bmw's 335i
and lets admit that does have more power

I agree, C300 is very good value for a quick sports sedan.

 

[soltani]

I went with the 350. The 335i has to use two turbos to get 30+ hp and they are having heating problems with them. Also the 335i 4 door does not come close the looks of the w204 Sport. I gave up the .5 sec in 0-60 to get a all around better car. I live in NY not a test track. My commute to work is what counts for me. The 350 and the 300 are the way to go.

"There is no replacement for displacement"

 

[giovanni821]

C300 Sport 6 SPD

Go for the C300 6-SPD. I had an EVO 9 RS with over 350 HP and the C300 is really nice. Better at highway cruising since it has an awesome flat torque curve- 221lbs-ft from 2700-5000. You can get great highway miles also between 25-28 MPG. I dont think the 350 is worth the extra cash IMO. But i wouldn't mind having it if money was no issue.

 

[MB-SV]

C350 certainly is more expensive, but what extra equipment comes with the C350 vs. C200? Price differential might night be so high when you take that into account.

 

[jvc300]

C350 certainly is more expensive, but what extra equipment comes with the C350 vs. C200? Price differential might night be so high when you take that into account.

The C350 comes with upgraded suspension and brakes over the C300, about 40 something more horsepower, spoiler, AMG 17", and the Maple trim for those of in the US to name a few.
I compared the Sticker at the dealer and there are quite a few items that the C350 has standard.
So if you price out a performance chip to bring up the horse power on the C300 and larger brakes, spoiler, etc. The C350 is a better value than the C300.

While shopping for my 'C' I have found that the price of the cars is all in the options. My C350 had a lower price(41,000US) than some of the C300's(42000-46000(Navi,18's, etc).
I have the C350 w/Blk/Blk, Pano, P2, AMG 17"s etc...

I have had both and they are great cars. If you price out the options carefully you can get the C350 at great price. I bought my 08' C350 a month ago when the dealer was giving 3,000 in incentives.

 

[MB-SV]

The C350 comes with upgraded suspension and brakes over the C300, about 40 something more horsepower, spoiler, AMG 17", and the Maple trim for those of in the US to name a few.
.

None of above adds much in value or cost, other than the bigger 3.5L V6 motor of course.

Okay I will detail it out, by looking at brochure and window sticker. C350 comes with the following that was optional on 2008 C300 in the US

P1 package $1400
7 speed aut tranny $1440

That's $2840 in extra equipment that over 90% of the C300's come equipped with anyway.

So I agree the C350 is a good value, since much of that equipment listed above is something that most C300's have as optional equipment.

 

[jvc300]

So I agree the C350 is a good value, since much of that equipment listed above is something that most C300's have as optional equipment.[/QUOTE]


You don't think that the upgraded brakes and suspension adds to the value? I don't believe that you can get that as an option. Plus, the extra horsepower?

 

[MB-SV]

So I agree the C350 is a good value, since much of that equipment listed above is something that most C300's have as optional equipment.

You don't think that the upgraded brakes and suspension adds to the value? I don't believe that you can get that as an option. Plus, the extra horsepower?[/QUOTE]


Yes the 1" increase in front brake rotor diameter adds about $100 in cost, the rest is essentially no cost to Mercedes to change. Of course as I mentioned above already the 3.5L versus 3.0L engine adds value.

So in short the real high dollar items are the P1 package, 7speed auto tranny and the 3.5L engine.

 

[TRauppius]

A Few Other Added Features...

So I agree the C350 is a good value, since much of that equipment listed above is something that most C300's have as optional equipment.

You don't think that the upgraded brakes and suspension adds to the value? I don't believe that you can get that as an option. Plus, the extra horsepower?[/QUOTE]

Here is what I can recall concerning the adds/differences between US Spec 2009 C350 compared to C300. I recently took delivery of a 2009 C350W at the factory in Sindelfingen and felt that the C350 was a good value.

1. Substantially more power and torque
2. Stonger brakes (diameter, rotor thickness, ventilated)
3. AMG rear spoiler lip
4. 6 spoke AMG 17" alloy wheels
5. P1 + Auto
6. 10 (vs 8 on C300) position power memory driver seat
7. Wood trim (black maple or burl walnut or option to retain C300 aluminum)
8. Suspension tuning and axle ratio differences
9. C350 cannot run on E85 ethanol fuel like C300 (flex fuel)
10. 4MATIC not available on US Spec C350

 

[MB-SV]

To clarify brake differences between C300 and C350 per MB specs:

C300 Sport: Dual-circuit power assisted 4-wheel disc brakes. Front: 11.6" perforated and ventilated - single-piston floating. Rear: 11.8" ventilated - single-piston floating

C350 Sport : Dual-circuit power-assisted 4-wheel disc brakes. Front: 12.7" perforated and ventilated - single-piston floating. Rear: 11.8" ventilated - single-piston floating

In short front rotors are bigger on C350.

 

[digitalpersona]

You know what they say about big rotors...

Big engine.

 

[FrankW]

all i care is my C350 without options was cheaper than C300 with auto and MM at $35540 OTD. nothing compare to my 32, but still loves the extra power it has over the C300 especially it can get the same MPG on hwy and local.

and if you still see 2008 model on the lot dealers are basically throwing the car at you and ask you to take it home with $8000-9000 off the msrp on some fully loaded cars.

wish I waited, but there probably wouldn't be a white one left. not a big deal since I'm a modder. If I do want to upgrade to bi-xenon on this car I want to get the C63 one and portable NAV is plenty good.

 

[MB-SV]

You know what they say about big rotors...

Big engine.

And big engine needs big brakes.

 

[TRauppius]

Close, but not quite accurate....

To clarify brake differences between C300 and C350 per MB specs:

C300 Sport: Dual-circuit power assisted 4-wheel disc brakes. Front: 11.6" perforated and ventilated - single-piston floating. Rear: 11.8" ventilated - single-piston floating

C350 Sport : Dual-circuit power-assisted 4-wheel disc brakes. Front: 12.7" perforated and ventilated - single-piston floating. Rear: 11.8" ventilated - single-piston floating

In short front rotors are bigger on C350.

Agreed, C350 front brake is significantly bigger; also From page 44/45 of the MB 2009 C Class Brochure:

C300 rear brake is 11.8" solid - single piston floating, while

C350 rear brake is 11.8" ventilated - single piston floating

 

[MB-SV]

From page 44/45 of the MB 2009 C Class Brochure:

C300 rear brake is 11.8" solid - single piston floating, while

C350 rear brake is 11.8" ventilated - single piston floating

Good info on the rear brakes, 2008 Mercedes brochure was incorrect stating that the C300 had ventilated rear rotors when it actually has solid rear rotors.

 

[marineLuke]

Hello:

In Canada. the C300 4matic and C350 4matic have an identical driveline. Its actually cheaper to produce one good engine and 'detune it' than it it is to produce 2 engines of various power outputs. The drive should be virtually identical with the c350 having 50 more HP. I bought a 'special' c300 which I would recommend. Only because I was able to get 350 features put on it. Panormic roof and a nice ash wood interior. for the money a similiarily equipped C350 is not worth the extra power. PLus, its only a matter of time before a tune is available to make the C300 248Hp into the C350 302HP.

I get about 9.2l/100km between city and highway. Not bad actually for an all wheel drive car.

I was also curious if anyone knows where these cars are built? Germany?

 

[Michilein]

Where are they built

Hello:

In Canada. the C300 4matic and C350 4matic have an identical driveline. Its actually cheaper to produce one good engine and 'detune it' than it it is to produce 2 engines of various power outputs. The drive should be virtually identical with the c350 having 50 more HP. I bought a 'special' c300 which I would recommend. Only because I was able to get 350 features put on it. Panormic roof and a nice ash wood interior. for the money a similiarily equipped C350 is not worth the extra power. PLus, its only a matter of time before a tune is available to make the C300 248Hp into the C350 302HP.

I get about 9.2l/100km between city and highway. Not bad actually for an all wheel drive car.

I was also curious if anyone knows where these cars are built? Germany?

For North America the c class is either built in South Africa or Germany

 

[GavinB]

I was disappointed that the 268 hp C350 was not available in a 4matic in the USA. I would have bought that if it were available. It is encouraging to see that the 2009 SLK350 engine puts out 300 hp, so maybe the 2009 C350 Sport will have the same output. Let's hope it does, and comes in 4matic too!

I agree, that being said, the 350 will be more fun to drive. The 4matic is nice but kind of makes the cars power seem different, less almost. It's a trade off. 350 will also come with a lot of standard options that are not standard on the 300.