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Is it ok to use anti-seize on lug nuts?

8.6K views 14 replies 7 participants last post by  rudeney  
#1 ·
My wife got a flat late at night and AAA towed it home. I took the wheel off myself to get it fixed. I'm an experienced mechanic and it was unbelievable how much force it took to loosen the lug nuts. I broke a Craftsman drive and ended up having to use my trusty, customized 3 ft piece of pipe in the end of my breaker bar and it still took some serious force. It was like removing a main suspension part.

There is no elfin way you could have removed these on the road. (For fun, I used the nice trunk wrench and stood and bounced on it and couldn't budge any of the nuts.) And this was from genuine Mercedes service!

I've routinely use anti-seize lube on high-torque nuts in wet applications like this, and of course always use a torque wrench (to 110 NM/80 ft-lb, right?).

Any problem with this on 2009 CLK350 with AMG wheels?
 
#2 ·
It is said that no lubricant at all should be used on lug bolts. One thing that can happen is if the alloys were fitted in the Winter say at -20c, then in the Summer at say +30c they will be much tighter to remove.

I have always got by, by stamping on the wheel brace... maybe the garage used the wrong torque setting.
 
#4 ·
I've never had problems with the bolts like that, but I have had rims welded to the hubs that took some unbelievable force to remove. I now use grease on the mating surfaces for the rim to prevent that.
 
#6 ·
^ +1 (for the rims - not the lug bolts). The Porterfield brakes I ordered from Jerry at formymercedes.com came with a selection of greases for various parts (pads to caliper, rotor to hub, wheel rim to hub/rotor. The rim grease was the copper type.
 
#9 ·
That's to protect you from lawyers. If I don't put never seize on the mounting surface of my wife's XC90 I have to kick the wheels off. But I also use a dab on every lug nut. My daughter's A4 spent its whole life in Colorado where there is basically no corrosion and the lugs were hard to get out even after they were loose. No way she could change a flat. No way a lumberjack could change her flat. I've not had any problems with them coming loose or getting over torqued. Lot's of people do it.
 
#10 ·
You are right. It is all about the law suits. We get a lot of cars from Canada. Talk about corrosion! It takes a good 20 mins to get all the anti seize off. We also scrub all the rust and corrosion off the surfaces. We are taught in training that you cannot get proper torque with all that crud on the surfaces. Me personally, I have never used anti seize or a torque wrench on any of my vehicles. But after training I did buy myself a good torque wrench.
 
#11 ·
I have always appreciated the fact that Costco uses a calibrated torque wrench to tighten lugs. This is as opposed to places like NTB that will just crank away with a pneumatic impact wrench, breaking many lugs.

Costco may do what they do for their own legal protection, but their customer service is beyond excellent. They scratched two of my rims on the CLK when mounting new tires and were quick to make it right, paying for the repair (which made them look better than when they went in). Then, after a blowout a few weeks back, hey replaced BOTH front tires for the price of one's road hazard deductible. They are the first (and thus usually the last) place I go for tires on all my cars.