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Adding a Central Locking Switch

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#1 · (Edited)
I decided to begin work on my next project; adding a central locking switch.

In my car the central locking works from the key in either of the front doors or the trunk.
When you’re in the car you can lock the whole car by pushing down the lock in either of the front doors. To unlock from the inside, you have to physically open one of the front doors. That’s where the problem comes in. It’s slightly inconvenient to open the door every time I want to unlock it.
My car is European spec and the door locks are smooth-there are no mushroom heads from which to pull the lock open. So the only way to unlock is to open the door.
I always though that it was less than ideal. It would be nice to have a dedicated switch to operate the central locking.
The later 124s with infrared remote locking have a central locking switch which is located where the fader went in the earlier cars. I grabbed one of these switches in the JY along with its socket and some wire. I bought a center console wood with an extra switch hole and it will look like a completely factory stock installation.
I thought that I could just splice into one of the control wires for either of the front doors or the trunk. Then I could use the switch to either send a ground signal or a 12v (+) signal to fool the pump into thinking that the door has been unlocked/locked and thus trigger the central locking pump to run and voila- a central locking switch.

In my testing, it turns out to not be so simple…
It won’t work that way.

The reason is, the door lock, when down, sends a constant ground signal, and when up sends a constant (+) signal. (or is it vice versa)
So if I use my switch to send a (+) signal when the lock is still down- it will be a short circuit! And if I use my switch to send a (-) signal when the lock is still up, that will be a short too! - Not good. That also explains why each lock has a separate circuit to the pump independent of the other 2.
It’s a lucky thing that the pump has internal protection circuitry, otherwise I could have damaged it doing my testing.

The only way to make my switch work is to use two single pole double throw (SPDT) relays.
The two relays are in series with one of the door lock signal wires. When the relays are both unexcited, it allows the signal from the lock to pass through uninterrupted. So the door locks will continue to work as original.
If my switch is activated, it excites one or other of the relays to break the circuit with the door lock and allow my switch signal to go in its place. One relay for the (+) signal, and the other relay for the (-) signal.
The relays also need to have a timer function so that they stay activated for about 3-4 seconds after they are pulsed-to give the central locking pump time to finish locking the doors.
I found this diagram on the 500E board:
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Now that I look at the switch, it also needs modification before it can work.
It’s a normally open (NO) single pole triple throw SPTT,CO (change over) switch.
The problem is that the common is floating while one of the throws is sharing the ground with the switch’s illumination. I need the ground for the illumination to be connected to the common for it to work. Then I permanently ground the common. I need one throw to ground one of the relays and the other throw to ground the other relay. The way the switch is now, it would be constantly grounding one of the throws.

Another thing this made me think of is I could also add a switch which is taking its signal from the speed sensor in the speedometer, so that the doors can lock themselves automatically above a certain speed like in my BMW. That would be a nice thing to have and very easy to add, once the above relays are wired up.
 
#2 ·
thats odd sounding. the US cars I've seen, the locks have a SPDT switch which is normally open. unlock hits one contact, lock hits the other. one side is wired to power, the other to ground, and the switch throw goes to the central lock motor and tells all the other locks to cycle. the easiest one to tap is the one in the trunk, or at the lock controller/pump under the back seat.

gads, I hate cars that autolock when you drive. but to each their own.
 
#5 ·
Yes, you're right. the locks in the door are SPDT. Are they normally open circuit? I'll have to check that.
When I was testing it, I had a voltmeter on the signal wire, not the door lock itself. The signal wire (green for the passenger door) was showing a constant (+) when the lock was up and a constant (-) when the lock was down. Maybe it was the pump which was giving the signal and the lock was an open circuit?
When I tried to ground the wire when it was (+) or energize the wire when it was (-), it didn't cause the pump to cycle to lock or unlock centrally as I expected. And then after that experiment, when I tried to lock centrally in the normal way, that door lock wouldn't activate the pump anymore. There is some kind of protection in the pump that had to be reset by disconnecting and reconnecting the battery. The pump inside has separate relays and breakers for each of the 3 circuits, apparently.
 
#4 ·
Thanks for the offer, but I will be mounting the switch in the upper console above the A/C. I still use my fader, which occupies the spot where your switch is located. I need the fader because I still use an old 2 channel Becker 1480 stereo.

With your car with the factory keyless entry, will it lock centrally when you manually push down the plunger?
 
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With your car with the factory keyless entry, will it lock centrally when you manually push down the plunger?
No, you can push down the plunger on each door individually. In fact, the plunger is even different vs. the standard fluted style we're used to seeing on US spec W124s.

I don't even hear a vacuum pump running when the button is pushed which makes me think the factory keyless system is driven fully electrically without vacuum of any kind but I might be wrong since I haven't taken a closeup look at the system yet.

Here are some pix anyway for reference
 

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Rare . . . as in it never made to the US rare . . . sure. Not too uncommon outside North America on later W124s.

Not sure why you'd rather have the IR key on the W140. They work exactly the same and the key is the same . . . just programmed different to the respective chassis #.

The only downside with IR keys (W124 or W140, etc.) is that they are expensive to replace vs. the standard key w/o electronics.
 
#14 ·
Apparently, all 1994 and 1995 European spec w124s which had central locking had the infrared remote locking with no key holes in the doors or trunk.
all the actuators are passive with no electrical switches-pneumatic only (like the rear doors on my car)
I'm glad I don't have that system, since there's no manual backup if something goes wrong with your key.

If you want remote locking, an aftermarket system might be better. There's one in my car somewhere. I've never been able to find it, but it works. It must be hidden in the trunk and wired to the trunk lock actuator.