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W203 - 2006 MB C230 722.9 - LIMP MODE CODES 1789 (P0730), 0894 -CAR WON'T PASS 2ND GEAR

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#1 ·
2006 MERCEDES C230 SPORT
Transmission 722.9 7-speed
VGS 2
Various owners before me
135,000 MILES
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA

SCANNER: AUTEL MD802 - MAXI DIAG ELITE - ALL SYSTEMS DS (ALL MODULES)

This scanner will scan ALL MODULES, but CAN'T PROGRAM or ACTIVATE SENSORS, NO ADAPTATIONS.


LIMP MODE - ONLY 1st and 2nd gear

CODE 1789 Fault in control module Transmission (P0730) MIL ON & STORED

CODE 0894
The gear in implausible or the transmission is slipping STORED


Hello forum members:

I am new in this forum and this is my 1st post. Please help me!!!

My 2006 Mercedes C230 is currently in LIMP MODE, it only works in 1st and 2nd gear, as soon as it is time for 3rd gear to engage, RPM jumps, then I release the accelerator so it won't make more damage by slipping out of control.

But if I press again the gas pedal, I get to hold 2nd gear at higher than normal RPM, going only at 10-15 mph. Of course I could press for more speed, but RPM will jump into the 3000 rpm or more.

HOW THE PROBLEM STARTED:

Car was driving perfect at highway speeds of 65-70 mph, up-shifting and down-shifting perfectly, for 1 hour.
When I got home, I turned around the car in front of my house, in a residential street at extremely slow speed, to let a family member continue using the car, when all of a sudden, I noticed the car wouldn't roll. When I released the brake pedal, the car wouldn't move, when I push the gas pedal it was very heavy, moving it required more power.
I thought it was something to do with SPORT / COMFORT shifting, I changed the setting with the button, but I got NO CHANGE.

I gave the car to a family member warning him about the unusual car behavior. Later, he said he noticed some heaviness right at the corner of the street, after that the car was fine, he said. His trip was short in residential streets at 35 mph max. He felt the problem again for a moment while turning (heavy rolling) when he arrived at his destination, 8 minutes later.

An hour later he called me when he couldn't move the car. He put the car in NEUTRAL and push it, but it was like braking, no move.
I went to help him, scanned the car, but got NO CODES, NO ENGINE LIGHT. I scanned ECU and Transmission modules only.

I was suspicious of a WEAK BATTERY, I was having sporadic small incidents with battery discharging.

Since it was a short distance to my home, I forced the car to move, and while doing that I smelled something burning. I thought it was the CLUTCHES in the transmission, since I know there are 2 BRAKE CLUTCHES PACKS inside the transmission.

I move the car at 10 mph, extremely slow, for 1.5 miles only, monitoring the TRANSMISSION FLUID TEMPERATURE NOT TO EXCEED 175-195*F
At one point I stopped to wait for the transmission to cool down.

In the meantime, I decided to do an ECU RESET by turning ignition to the ON POSITION, pushing gas pedal to the floor, waiting for 1 minute, turning OFF THE IGNITION, releasing the gas pedal, waiting for 2 minutes to start the car, or something like that procedure.
Somehow, by doing that, the braking, heaviness disappeared and I was able to move the car at a better speed, but I noticed the car was in LIMP MODE.

I got home and scanned it again, NO TRANSMISSION CODES, NO ENGINE LIGHT ON.
Before the problem started, it was always my intention to do a TRANSMISSION FLUID AND FILTER CHANGE (NOT A FLUSH), so a few days later I did it, thinking that it may solve my problem. I was wrong.

FLUID DARK OR BLACK, BUT NOT BURNT, NO UNUSUAL SMELL
NO FILINGS, NO METAL in the magnets
REMOVE FLUID FROM TORQUE CONVERTER
FLUID LEVEL WAS CORRECT, I think 9 QUARTS

In my opinion, THIS WAS THE FIRST FLUID CHANGE AT 135K MILES
ALL SOLENOIDS were checked for resistance and function, they were within range and clicked with battery voltage.
ALL SOLENOIDS were cleaned with a magnet and brake cleaner

ALL 3 SPEED SENSORS in the conductor plate were cleaned. No filings or unusual gunk.
TRANSMISSION CONNECTOR was cleaned with electronic cleaner.
TRANSMISSION FLUID WAS FILLED at the correct level at the right temperature.
VALVE BODY WAS NOT OPEN, just cleaned the upper and lower surface, NOT DISASSEMBLY.

During all this time frame, the car battery discharged and it was changed for a new one. But with that time, the new one discharged also, so many times I recharge it and disconnected the battery.

The car is still in LIMP MODE.
Now the car was showing 2 codes that were HARD CODES in the ESP MODULE (ABS).

Code C1130 L6/4 (right rear speed sensor) : Line monitoring

Code C1120 L6/3 (left rear speed sensor) : Line monitoring

HARD CODES because the codes could NOT BE DELETED, not with my Autel MD802

I went to a transmission mechanic who wouldn't work on Mercedes, but agreed to use his latest Snap-On scanner. He was able to delete the REAR SPEED SENSOR CODES in the ESP module.
I thought my car was OUT OF LIMP MODE, but I was wrong.

Car is still in limp mode.

Codes 1789 (P0730) MIL ON & STORED and 0894 STORED only appear if I move the car, and I can DELETE them.

I need to get the car out of limp mode, smog it and start using it again.
Please I need help from anybody who may have experienced something similar. I need help especially from all the experts in this forum.

Thank you.

p.s.: Sorry, I know it is a long post, but has ALL the details.
 
#2 ·
Come on, guys!!! More than 18 hours since I posted it, more than 40 people viewed it, and no solutions for my problem?
I know there are some very experienced technicians, diy people who can help me with some good advise.

Please help with my 2006 Mercedes C230 limp mode.
What is the problem, the transmission, the conductor plate, the ABS speed sensors, the conductor plate speed sensors, or ???
Thank you in advance.
 
#4 ·
Hi Rudeney,

Thank you for your reply to my problem. You may be correct, but obviously I'm trying to see any other possibilities less involved and less expensive.
My first thought when the problem started was that the transmission was defective, I was thinking about some damage to the brake clutches inside the 722.9 transmission ( I think they are K1, K2 and K3), only because the original symptom was like the parking brake was applied very firm, the car was very heavy to move.

But after doing the transmission fluid and filter change, I changed my mind since I didn't see metal filings o didn't smell burnt oil, no unusual or excessive gunk in pan or magnets, old fluid was about the right quantity / level. That along with the fact that 2 hard codes appear in the ESP/ABS module (they may have been there from the very beginning of the problem because I never thought to scan the ESP module when the problem started).
Those codes where C1130 L6/4 right rear speed sensor: Line monitoring and C1120 L6/3 left rear speed sensor: Line monitoring. These codes I was unable to delete with my Autel scanner.
NOTE: I can see all speeds from all 4 abs wheel speed sensors in my scanner, so I don't get the reason for displaying DTC codes. In one of many test drives, I noticed 1 mph difference in the Right Front wheel speed sensor. I understand that all should be the same speed or similar, but the incident didn't happened again.

My logic was that due to bad wheel speed sensors in the rear and/or a weak battery, the ESP/ABS got a power surge, applied the brakes by itself, and force the tranny to go into limp mode.
I replaced 2 rear sensors with used ones, no change.
I replaced the Yaw sensor in the trunk with a used one, no change.
I was about to buy a used ESP module to see if things improved, but I changed my mind because a mechanic with a top of the line Snap-On scanner was able to delete both rear speed sensors codes and they never came back.

But I still don't have ABS, ESP or Traction Control, they are disabled. And the car is in limp mode.

Of course I got multiple codes in different modules indicating low voltage, including in ESP module.
ALSO appeared code B1078 Fault in communication with component H3/1 (Alarm signal siren with additional battery) or there is a cable fault.
This code is CURRENT, it can be deleted but IT COMES BACK ALWAYS.
Normally, I wouldn't care about the alarm, but I do remember one night when I had to stop the alarm with the keyfob because it went off due to weak battery (?) again.

I would only pay attention to the alarm because it is a theft deterrent component, may be will affect the immobilizer??? Not sure about that. May be it has something to do with limp mode???
I removed the alarm, didn't see anything abnormal, then put it back in. Later I learnt that an internal battery in the alarm may be leaking on its internal PCB, creating code B1078. Sounds about right, I have seen pictures, I need to open the alarm and clean the board, but I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the transmission and limp mode.

Among many different codes that appeared and were deleted to never come back, I got:
P1789 Pressure control solenoid B short circuit
This could be inside the transmission??? This code has a "P" in front of the same 1789 already disclosed, but this code has a very different description.

The last unusual behavior is that when I disconnect and reconnect the battery, there are no messages in the dashboard about ABS, I am NOT required to turn left-right, left-right the steering wheel to reset the steering angle sensor. Well... I guess that confirms I don't have active ABS/ESP.

Hopefully someone has his/her own similar experiences or knowledge to share with me.
So far, it is confusing what the problem and solution is, but Rudeney, you may be right unfortunately for me. I may need new clutches, maybe 3rd gear???
Someone told me I may be able to get a transmission from the junkyard and put my own valve body with conductor plate an TCU VGS2. Any confirmation to that?

Thanks again Rudeney for your opinion, I appreciate it very much.

Please anybody who can give me alternatives???

Thank you all.
 
#5 ·
The thing is, you tried to push the car while in neutral and it was immovable. That's a physical problem - not an electronic issue. It could be a bad brake caliper that's locked-up, but the only other thing is in the transmission.