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OM642 leaking oil from turbo into exhaust.

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#1 ·
Hi guys! This is about OM642 in a W251 leaking oil from turbo into exhaust.

I recently bought a 2007 Mercedes R-Class 320 CDI. Seller told me it sometimes smells exhaust in the cabin which it did. The reason I think is because the oil cap leaked, and oil went down to exhaust manifold. OR its related to my next problem. The car has been very little used the last one and a half year. It has new PCV valve/tube (replaced by former owner related to fumes in cabin).

Shortly after I start to use the car, I noticed gray/blueish smoke which got worse. I took of the exhaust exit pipe on the turbo and found oil leaking from the cartridge. Normal play in turbo bearings. Since this happened so recent and have new PCV valve I pulled the turbo and bought a new CHRA from E-bay. This part fitted well, and I cleaned the VNT turbo vanes and put everything together. I must mention that one of the vanes looked a little bent and two of the turbin blades was a little bent. Started up, no smoke, drove off, pulling strong and soon it started to smoke again. :(

Checked the PCV tube for blowby which seems ok, did the oilcap test and it dance a little when I block the tube. Compression test with Star is ok. Took of exhaust pipe and found fresh oil from turbo cartridge.

Star diagnose gives no error codes and DPF values looks good. Internal engine ventilation seems ok. Oil drainage from turbo through turbo mount are “clean” with no blockage. Engine oil, oil filter, air filter are relative new (ca.1000km(new after fixing timing chains)).

Can this be as simple as a bad quality (Chinese) CHRA? I feel troubled by the fact I have same symptoms now. Can the bent vane give internal problems in the turbo center/cartridge making it leak oil(over/under pressure)? I measured the diameters for the oil return lines. Turbo exit is 13,3mm, top of turbo stand is 11,9mm, bottom of turbo stand is 13mm and through smallest hole in engine block I measured 10,5mm. Can the “restriction” from turbo exit to top of turbo stand (13,3 to 11,9mm) make the oil to gather up inside cartridge making it leak?. :unsure:

The car have ben very little used since last oil change (Mobil1 ESP). Can this be related to "old" oil in time, not in km?

So good people do anyone have experienced something similar and want to give me advice?

Regards, Niels
 
#4 ·
Hi! Thank you, I really appreciate your follow up questions. Drain holes from oil cooler are dry + I found fresh oil in the turbin/exhaust side of the turbo (see picture). About blowby I put a paper towel over the oil fill hole and it did not rip, it just got wet from oil when I blocked the breather pipe. My car have DPF. If DEF is Bluetech I have not, it's a 320 from late 2007 sold as a 2008 320 CDI. I have videos but I do not know how to post them here.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Hi there, did you end up finding out what the problem was??? I am suffering from exactly the same issue...
My car started smoking very badly all of a sudden after a few 1st+2nd gear pulls, and now smokes consistently. I discovered oil in the turbo's turbine housing and in the dump pipe, but couldnt see any oil in the exhaust manifold leading up to the turbo, so thought for sure this meant the turbo had to be the problem. So I just installed a brand new turbo thinking the old one must have had a leaking oil seal, but it is smoking just as badly as before...
So now I really cant figure out what is going on.
Really hoping someone knows what this issue is here... Thanks
 
#11 ·
Hello,
Did you find a resolution to this problem? I am experiencing the same thing and cannot figure it out. Everyone is telling me the turbo is at fault but it has been replaced and checked and tested 3 times now! It’s not the turbo!

Hello,
Did you ever find a resolution to this problem?
I am experiencing the same thing.
I am being told by everyone that it is the turbo at fault but it has been replaced and checked and tested 3 times and has no faults.
I have no idea what to do next!
 
#12 ·
I did not read all of the posts so this could be a repeat. Oil can come out of the Engine and get into the exhaust side of the Turbo.
When the Turbo was off you should have been able to see inside of the exhaust manifold. If the inside of the exhaust manifold has that shiny wet looking carbon you have issue with your cylinder head or engine.
 
#15 ·
The oil return line for the turbo must be open (not plugged) and large enough (not an issue if it's stock). There is lots of oil volume through the turbo center section but you don't want any pressure. Excess crankcase pressure can cause the same problem.