I have not used either of them myself. But reading your specs from an offroader perspective I would stay with the MB-A. It has higher line speed. and does not have a slipperclutch to fail.

 

That is one of my main considerations however if you notice from the specs the slip clutch disengages at 3,850 which is higher than the pulling capacity of the winch. I guess the biggest negative for me is that if the load being pulled exceeds the pulling capacity of the MB-A winch then the truck stalls/dies. This I could see as a possible problem.

 

I have only used the type C and it was pretty fast from recollection. I have heard that the A s are basically too fast for controlled use which would make sense from the specs you gave. I once had my PTO in 1000 instead of 540 on the 140 not being familiar with how the lever works (out and in rather than forward and backwards) and it was almost impossible to winch up a little cliff. I killed the engine a few times and finally had to rev it up slip the clutch and launch up the cliff. It worked but not very safe or controlled. The difference between the A and C is even greater than 1000 vs 540 so in short I've vote hands down for the C. Also having the clutch is not a bad thing. Perhaps the A has a shear pin. There really should be something cheap to give before you break something expensive. Someone recently said that the Merc and Werner winches were way under rated.

Maybe the A would be good for log skidding where you want to get a lot done quickly rather than for self recovery.

 

Unless you are in a competition or you really have to make that date, line speed is not going to mean crap. Face it .....another minute or two in the life of a Mog owner..lol.
I have an Type A on the 416 and its more than enough... I have skidded everything, including the mog. Until I get a Mountain restraint of sorts either Type A or C will do you good.
As far as the slip clutch goes, I believe the ratings are for lifting, therefore the pulling is substantial more. (someone please clarify If I'm wrong).
A type A is rated at 6 ton , but I would put it against a Warn 16k (or other) and feel good abut the results.
G Vavra

 

All my winching has been with electric winches. They are a little easier to control. you have forward and reverse as well as stop and start. I have not tried the PTO winch on the front of the mog yet. Should be an interesting experience.

 

I had a thought...if you want to get more controlled speed with the A use a snatch block then it would be closer to the C speed.

 

For all of those who contributed and shared thank you for the thoughts. ideas and experiences. I am still hoping to find someone who has used both and can give me a direct comparison in their opinion of which is better/more user friendly.

 

MB Wincxhes

Concerning your dilemma, I wish I could advise you as to which is a better choice for you! My dilemma is that I have recently located a complete & working PTO Assembly for my 1963 Swiss 404 and am in the market for a winch. If & when you decide which unit to mount on your Unimog, I am interested in obtaining the unit that you will not have a need for. If by chance you stay with the model "A", would you put me in contact with the owner of the Model "C"

THANKS for your time!!!!!!!!

 

Concerning your dilemma, I wish I could advise you as to which is a better choice for you! My dilemma is that I have recently located a complete & working PTO Assembly for my 1963 Swiss 404 and am in the market for a winch. If & when you decide which unit to mount on your Unimog, I am interested in obtaining the unit that you will not have a need for. If by chance you stay with the model "A", would you put me in contact with the owner of the Model "C"

THANKS for your time!!!!!!!!

Do you know how it mounts to a 404?
All the pictures I see of PTO winches show them mounted to 406 and 416's - their bumpers have the PTO cutout in them.
How does it mount to a 404 - as it does not have the PTO cutout or do you need a special bumper for the 404 as well?
Thanks,

 

Classic Unimogs for Sale - 1964 Unimog 404 with Winch & Crawler Gears

 

I had a type "H" winch on my 406. Worked great; nice and slow at 540 rpm, easy to engage and slip. I don't know a whole lot about the capacity other than it will pull the 406 backwards with the lockers engaged in crawler first gear. It mounts to the rear frame horns. I don't think there is a mounting option for the front with this winch. It's currently on the floor of the shop while the backhoe mount is attached.

 

Still hoping for someone who has used both winches to see this thread and give me their input. However I am becoming doubtful that anyone has used both winches. And if there is someone who has they either don't have the time to reply or aren't on the forum.

I was kind of hoping that one of the vendors would see this thread and chime in.....

 

Either way, please keep me in mind!! Do you have any idea what the APPROXIMATE cost will be for the winch?

Please advise

Dennis

 

To give you an idea, these winches usually go anywhere from $2,000 - $3,000.

 

For Bill in Zim