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Brake line leaking need replacing

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#1 ·
As you may know, my son totaled my 2022 ML320. I bought a 2004 ML350 from Chicago. It has significant corrosion underneath, and 6 months later, the brake line is leaking and essentially no hydraulic brakes. Car is stranded at a friend's home. I guess need to drive to my home with emergency brakes or something.

Both brake lines going to the rear wheels look terrible. It has been cut and replaced before. I could not specifically find the leaking line yet since the car is not at my house. I could not find any DIY pictures here. At one post, I read a warning against opening the ABS unit. I am glad to find that MB still supplies OEM brake lines.

How difficult it is to replace these lines? Any tips or tricks?
 
#5 ·
Unless you have experience with flaring tools stick with premade brake lines.

 
#7 ·
The way W163 was built everything got assembled to the frame then body shell was lowered and bolted to it.
I think it would be easier to replace those lines in sections and join them with union.
Maybe @Noodles has some tips. He deals with rusty cars.

 
#10 · (Edited)
Witek, replacing the whole line is going to be a nightmare. I may break more lines while wiggling other lines. I can't even tell the ruptured lower line it the rear right or left rear wheel.

I bought 2 compression fittings, line, line cutter and flare tool from Autozone. I can give it a try to patch this but condition of the line is nightmare. I need to watch a lot of videos about how to do this right.
 
#11 ·
Witek, replacing the whole line is going to be a nightmare. I may break more lines while wiggling other lines. I can't even tell the ruptured lower line it the rear right or left rear wheel.

I bought 2 compression fittings, line, line cutter and flare tool from Autozone. I can give it a try to patch this but condition of the line is nightmare. I need to watch a lot of videos about how to do this right.
Do not use compression fittings on brake lines.
 
#13 · (Edited)
It's been a hell of an experience to learn a) how to use the double flare tool and b) buy the correct parts. AGS brand brake line (part number: PA-320), 2x union nuts, and 2x fittings, (all 3/16 size and standard=inverted=double flare). You can not mix the US, Japanese, and European parts together. These are labeled PA-xxx, PAJ-xxx, and PAE-xx, respectively. It's easy to get confused when shopping at the auto store. Flushed the brakes and no leak after the test drive.


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#14 ·
Doing the double flare on steel lines can be tricky. I used to have to do them on the trailers we use to make. If I remember correctly the kit for the double flare back then was about $350. I still have it today though it’s a great kit and I still use it on the old cars I restore.


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#19 · (Edited)
So I too had to recently replace the brake lines for the rear brakes. The 2 brake lines to the reservoir are also rusting right by the bend before the pump. I don't understand how this portion is rusted. In any case none of the dealers in my area has this brake line and all places online do not have it. A few places say it's no longer manufactured. The part numbers are:

163-420-64-26-64
163-420-65-26-64

Can these lines be custom made or does it have to be factory made?
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#20 ·
So I too had to recently replace the brake lines for the rear brakes. The 2 brake lines to the reservoir are also rusting right by the bend before the pump. I don't understand how this portion is rusted. In any case none of the dealers in my area has this brake line and all places oine do not have it. A few places say it's no longer manufacturered. The part numbers are:

163-420-64-26-64
163-420-65-26-64

Can these lines be custom made or does it have to be factory made?
It looks like MBOemparts.com have these. You can search other online shops too.
Brake Line - Mercedes-Benz (163-420-64-26-64)
  • MSRP:$90.00
  • Discount:$23.31 (25.9% off)
  • Sale Price:$66.69
Line - Mercedes-Benz (163-420-65-26-64)
  • MSRP:$94.00
  • Discount:$24.44 (26% off)
  • Sale Price:$69.56

I bet these lines will NOT be shipped pre-shaped. But at least they will be just the right size and come with correct fittings.
 
#21 ·
It looks like MBOemparts.com have these. You can search other online shops too.
Brake Line - Mercedes-Benz (163-420-64-26-64)
  • MSRP:$90.00
  • Discount:$23.31 (25.9% off)
  • Sale Price:$66.69
Line - Mercedes-Benz (163-420-65-26-64)
  • MSRP:$94.00
  • Discount:$24.44 (26% off)
  • Sale Price:$69.56

I bet these lines will NOT be shipped pre-shaped. But at least they will be just the right size and come with correct fittings.
I'll try from MBOemparts.com but the other sites that I have tried canceled my order and refunded my money stating that the part is no longer available.
 
#22 ·
Some retro reading for you:
 
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#31 ·
So I've tried again to get the MB made brake lines and no MB dealer has it and every one I've contacted said its no longer made. Aside from making my own lines out of copper nickel, can I use a new brake line from another MB? Meaning maybe a 2006 ML (or maybe older/newer) or one from an E class? Does anyone know if the factory brake line diameter of another MB and fittings are the same as the W163 and can be bent to the W163 shape?
 
#28 ·
DarkManX4if,

FYI

I have replaced both master cylinder to ABS brake inlet lines on a 2004 ML, both lines were
6mm (1/4" brake line will work, original lines O.D. measured .2380" and .2371") bubble flares
on both ends of each.

When you use 1/4" SAE Brake tubing, you have to run a 1/4" drill bit through the old metric fittings
if reusing them, as the SAE line O.D.is slightly larger.

You should check the O.D. before ordering bulk tubing and fittings.