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1979 450SL won't crank

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#1 ·
I got into my car this morning and tried to start it. First two times it cranked, third time it wouldn't crank. Battery is good, seems that the wires on the starter are connected, and a relay clicks when i turn the key to the start position. Please help.
 
#10 · (Edited)
There are only a few devices in your starting circuit:
  • battery
  • starter & solenoid
  • ignition switch
  • starter relay
  • transmisssion lockout switch
  • connecting cables and wiring

You need to isolate the culprit in a logical fashion.
You say you are sure the battery is good, so the next step is to see whether power is actually reaching the starter when you turn the key. If it is then you have a starter or solenoid problem. If it is not, you have a problem in the upstream circuit.

Put a meter or test light on the starter terminals to check for 12v, while a helper turns the ignition switch key (or use a remote starter switch yourself). Alternatively, apply 12v from another source to the starter to see if it operates. OR run jumper cables directly from your battery to the starter. This will tell you whether your starter is the problem.
 
#7 ·
After your second attempt do the lights and other electrical equipment function?

My battery died recently, but in my case everything went dead. It ended up being a completely failed battery. When I ran an ohm meter from pole to pole it showed 10mV which is really zero.

Loren
 
#9 ·
I had the same trouble once. It turned out that I had bumped the shift lever out of Neutral into Reverse. I was trying for 2 days to shoot an electrical problem that was really my brain fart.

Sometimes you gotta check the simple things first.:eek:
 
#12 ·
Posting too fast earlier, sorry. The last two weeks have been pretty bad. I think I need to sleep for a week solid to try and catch up for the last few months. Between the equipment going up in smoke at one end of the state and a weird trouble in the opposite end, I've been doing a lot of overtime. Things are getting a bit fuzzy around the edges.
 
#20 ·
I didn't dissapear, was out of town. Just got a new solenoid today. I'm going to try it tonight or tomorrow. I'm definately not a novice at mechanics, just these crazy Mercedes. It's not the transmission lockout switch as the relay only works in nuetral and park. The relay is clicking when in the start position as I stated before. The solenoid is kind of difficult to get to in this car though, so I haven't checked to see if there's power there. I'm used to old Chevy's. This car leaves very little room under the hood or underneath. I've got power to everything else i.e. lights, radio, horn etc. Baterry IS good. Is it simple to drop the starter or possible to change the solenoid without dropping the starter?
 
#23 ·
I don't know this for a fact, but after seeing the R&R of my old starter, I would guess not.

And that leads me to suggest that, rather than just replacing the solenoid, replace the whole thing. This isn't a road you want to travel twice, and if the solenoid is burned, chances are the windings on the starter motor are going, too. Absolutely no point in going through all this pain and hassle, just so you can do it again in six months or a year.