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W124 soft top manual operation 1994 E320 Cabriolet

Sorry for posting it here, but I assume there are more experts here than in W124 thread.

It looks (visibly) that my soft tiop is not locked completely at the rear. The red soft top light blinks, the alarm is buzzing when the car starts to move. I looked at the hydraulic tank and it is empty

My questions are:
- how to lock the rear of the top manually (very small gap is visible now, the top ALMOST locked)
- location of all hydraulic cyllinders in W124 body.

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Not familiar with the W124, but if the hydraulic tank is empty may be you can just fill it to get the top to lock. With the top working again, you can then move on to find the leak.
You need to use MB approved hydraulic fluid, not the 'cheap' one from Auto-stores or risk contaminating the rest of the system and more leaks in the future.

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Thanks. I am waiting for Febi fluid to arrive. In the mean time I'd love to lock the soft top. I inspected it today again and found that there is a center latch (under the rear window) that is not locked. The pin did not go all way thru. I tried to push it and it did not go. I try to avoid brutal force.
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Sorry for posting it here, but I assume there are more experts here than in W124 thread.

It looks (visibly) that my soft tiop is not locked completely at the rear. The red soft top light blinks, the alarm is buzzing when the car starts to move. I looked at the hydraulic tank and it is empty

My questions are:
- how to lock the rear of the top manually (very small gap is visible now, the top ALMOST locked)
- location of all hydraulic cyllinders in W124 body.

Thanks
Please tell us the year of your car.

MY93 300CE, MY94-95 E320 Convertible 124.066 chassis 104.992 engine

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You can get a free, year-long subscription to the Mercedes EPC here ---> EPC-net Online it will list all the parts of the top hydraulic system including the cylinders and give you a general idea where they are with a diagram.
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Please read the following thread ALL the way threw at http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124...operation.html
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Bad leaking sound

Thanks a lot for the info. I read the above mentioned thread before posting here.
I added some hydraulic fluid and tried to play with the roof. It finally locked at the rear. I could hear fluid rushing from the pump.
I tried to open the roof and heard like a very bad leaking sound. All fluid was gone in a minute!
The sound comes from behind the rear seat backrest. Here are my next questions:

- how to manually unlock and open the cover?
- how to remove the backrest of the rear seat? I removed the cushion with no problem.
I want to get access to the leak to inspect it.

Thanks again.
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OK. Now I see huge leak just behind pass. rear wheel

It looks like all hydraulic fluid I added in previous step is on the ground. I assume it is a "standard" problem for this cars ? Gurus, please advise me which cylinder is leaking and how to get it out? Thanks.
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Here are my next questions:

- how to manually unlock and open the cover?
- how to remove the backrest of the rear seat? I removed the cushion with no problem.
I want to get access to the leak to inspect it.
Since I have been the Moderator of the R129 Forum you are probably one of the first W124 members that has been advised to come over to our forum requesting information on your car. Probably because our cars have a total of 11 hydraulic cylinders that can/will need repair. And believe me when I say many of our older car owners deal with this routinely.

May I suggest that you check your Owners Manual for manually unlocking the rear cover. If you don't have a manual ask your W124 Forum if they have a 1994 MB E320 Cabriolet W124.066.PDF from there MB CD.

I'm sorry to tell you but most of us don't know your car's design but what I can do is suggest that there are several ways to approach your situation. Please read R129 STAR Classic Service Manual Library on DVD, STAR TekInfo, ALLDATAdiy, EPC
1) Go to your local library and see if you can get FREE information from ALLDATAdiy. If not you may want to purchase a full years subscription. I have done so and found it to be very usefull.
2) Buy a subscription to STAR TekInfo. It is essentially the same info that you get on a W124 STAR Classic CD. I have not gone this avenue but others have and they find it very good.
3) Purchase a W124 STAR Classic Service Manual Library on CD form Mercedes-Benz.
4) After you decide that you are going to DIY may I suggest that you contact Dennis Ficken. He can rebuild your cylinders for $40/each plus S/H. Please see Dennis Ficken contact info
5) This is a very valuable parts site at Russian Parts Site for the 124.066 E320

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My questions are:
- how to lock the rear of the top manually (very small gap is visible now, the top ALMOST locked)
- location of all hydraulic cyllinders in W124 body.
The diagram below shows the location of the cylinders.
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