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Interesting Info on W124 Cabriolet's

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#1 ·
Hello All;

I found this interesting post on a W124 Cab/Coupe website out of the UK, and I have enclosed it for your enjoyment. :)

What Goes Wrong:

Good news here: most 124 cabriolets have been well cared for and moderately used, often as a second car. They do seem to have been favoured by lady drivers too, which bodes well for general condition. But obviously there is one vulnerable aspect of the cabriolet — the roof. Like any canvas top, it will eventually wear and discolour, and vandal damage is always possible.

"The hoods are strong and well made," says independent Mercedes dealer and 124 specialist Charles Ironside. www.charlesironside.co.uk "But they do tend to mark at the rear where they fold, and the can collect a green fungus if the car is left outside a lot."

Replacing a cabriolet's hood is going to be an expensive job. Although only the outer canvas is likely to be required, this costs nearly £3,200 from a Mercedes dealer, and then fitting would take about six hours, adding another £600 or so to the bill. Savings can be made by using an independently-supplied canvas; for example Hampshire-based Southbound Motor Trimmers (01264 810080) supplies a German-sourced item made from the original material for £551 (£50 extra for different colours).

The hood's electrics seem to be robust, "I've never known one with a mechanical fault," says Ironside. However we have heard of problems brought about by the failure of rear electric window lifts; if one stops working, and the window sacks in place, the hood cannot lower. Getting to the motor with the hood up is very tricky, as the rear seat needs to be removed.

Ungaraged A124s seem to attract thieves, many of whom try to break in by inserting a screwdriver or similar between the hood and the front side window, where it meets the A-pillar. Check for scratches on the glass.

The smooth operation of the hood is dependent on a good battery The motors draw a lot of current, and if the hood is lowered before the engine is started, this could be too much for a weak battery, especially if the car hasn't been used for a while.

In terms of powertrain and suspension, the cabriolets are near-identical to the 124 coupes. There are some minor differences; for instance the cabriolet's strengthened rear floorpan isn't the same shape, meaning that an exhaust tailpipe will cost £226 instead of the coupe's £190.

As on the 124 saloons and coupes, the six cylinder engines can leak oil from the cylinder-head joint. Caused by oil leaking through the gasket as it's fed under pressure to the camshafts, it may be a very minor leak or a more worrying dribble. But the only cure is a new head gasket.

Engine mounts commonly wear out before 100,000 miles. If the engine feels smoother ticking over in reverse than in first (this test only applies to automatic cars), the mounts on the steering-wheel side of the chassis are worn.

The transmissions are generally reliable. Though some reckon that the five-speed auto, with its electronic shifter, is more likely to give trouble than the simpler four-speed unit.

The front suspension ball joints have a tendency to creak, as a result of the grease in these pre-sealed items leaking out and leaving them dry. And the various rubber bushes on the multi-linked rear axle can perish in time, leading to some movement in the suspension and hence an MOT failure.

The interior trim is generally durable, although one weak spot is the trim on the seatbelt holders at shoulder height. The vinyl covering can crack with age. There should be no body rust on even the earliest A124s.

PRICES

With 789 E220 and 557 E320s sold in the UK, the cabriolet population is too small for there to be any widely-used ‘book value’. Prices vary according to condition and mileage (age is a factor but isn't crucial), and also colour and specification. What can be said is that reasonable examples fetch between £10,000 and £15,000, while the very best ones top £20,000, perhaps even reaching £25,000. Cars under £10,000 are the tatty, high mileage ones.

"Azurite blue [dark blue metallic] with cream leather is the colour scheme that people like best," says Ironside, "but a cabriolet in Almandine Red [light red metallic] with black leather can sit there and not sell."

The more equipment, the more desirable the car. Leather, air-conditioning and even the front seat armrest compartment were extra, but are considered essentials. The stiffer Sportline suspension is another option that increases value.

VERDICT

The A124 is not only a highly desirable Merc drophead (provided you go for the E320), but also an extremely practical one. It's a proper four-seater, and much more versatile than its contemporary stablemate, the R129 SL. It's also a lot less complex than the SL; apart from its roll-over system, the cabriolet is, like any other 124, a simple car that's largely free of electronics.

It's probably best to shop in the £12,000 to £15,000 bracket, as the cheapest ones may well turn out to be false economy, and the pristine ones likely to be worth no more than average ones after a couple years of use as an everyday car. On this basis the A124 is certainly one luxury convertible you can have for a non-luxury price.


SPECIFICATIONS

Mercedes-Benz E220 Cabriolet
ENGINE 2,199cc 4-cyl
POWER 148bhp@5,500rpm
TORQUE 1551b/ft@4,000rpm
TRANSMISSION 5-speed manual or 4-speed automatic
WEIGHT 1,640kg
0-62MPH 12.4sec
TOP SPEED 127mph
YEARS PRODUCED 1993-1997

Mercedes-Benz 320E E320
ENGINE 3,199cc 6-cyl
POWER 217bhp@5,500rpm
TORQUE 2291b;ft@3,750rpm
TRANSMISSION 5-speed manual, 4- or 5-speed automatic
WEIGHT 1,720kg
0-62MPH 8.5sec
TOP SPEED 143mph
YEARS PRODUCED 1992-1997

Mercedes-Benz E36 AMG
ENGINE 3,600cc 6-cyl
POWER 268bhp@5,750rpm
TORQUE 2841bmp @3,750-4,500rpm
TRANSMISSION 4-speed automatic
WEIGHT 1,740kg
0-62MPH 7.2sec
TOP SPEED 155mph
YEARS PRODUCED 1993-1997

Figures for 4-speed automatics
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#3 ·
[8D]

Thanks for the post, Brad. Good information about weak spots.

As for thieves and ragtops, I learned the hard way many years ago never to lock the doors. And I've never owned a sound system worth the price of new canvas. Over the course of 20 years since that one bad experience, I don't think I've had anything worth more than $20 stolen out of a car. Maybe the thieves figure an unlocked convertible won't have anything in it worth stealing? Though I guess I should mention that somebody did vomit into one of my cars once, but that didn't take much to clean up.

Cheers!

Dave
 
#7 ·
[8D]

Over the course of 20 years since that one bad experience, I don't think I've had anything worth more than $20 stolen out of a car. Maybe the thieves figure an unlocked convertible won't have anything in it worth stealing? Though I guess I should mention that somebody did vomit into one of my cars once, but that didn't take much to clean up.

Dave
Ewww! I worked at a car rental agency when I was in college, and once discovered that a customer had opened the lid on the center console of a Camaro and puked in there. Hooray for wet-vacs, is all I can say.

Until I got my E320 wagon, I usually left my doors unlocked. The only thing that ever happened was somebody got into the glove box of my 300D and stole one glove — irritating (I still need to buy a new pair of gloves), but also kind of amusing.

Now returning to your regularly-scheduled thread....

--mf
 
#6 ·
With 789 E220 and 557 E320s sold in the UK
Excellent. I was looking for these figures.

Does anyone think that this is the total amount of
RHD W124 / A124 Cabrios produced, as there are more
RHD countries than just the UK.

Ireland, Japan and South Africa too spring to mind
as RHD destination countries for A124 cabrios...

So, in summation:
I'm looking for the total worldwide production of
RHD W124 / A124 cabrio's please, if someone can
point me in the direction of this info,
or just post it up here on this thread ?

Thank you.
 
#10 ·
Australia got them as well, when the multi valve engine updated we got the 320CE cab (rare) then went to E320 cab (rare-ish) and then later on the E220 cab (popular) The bulk of them were bought on price, we got a pretty decent spec too (bulk of them were leather). They're still asking the early 20's for a youngish E220 and go up from there to about early 30's in price.
 
#15 ·
More info...

Die nachfolgenden Produktionszahlen sind Produktionen
mit Aussattungscode 957 (AMG Technik Paket)

7 Cabrios E 34 (124.061)
68 Cabrios E 36 (124.066)
68 Coupés E 36 (124.052)
171 T-Modelle E 36 (124.092)
8 Limousinen E 36 (124.032)
147 Limousinen E 60 (124.036)



Exporte nach England zwischen 1993 und 1997

14 Cabrios E 36
24 Coupés E 36
7 T-Modelle E 36
12 Limousinen E 36

Bei den 33.952 hergestellten Cabrios handelte es sich um

6.343 300 CE Cabrios (766) und 300 CE-24 Cabrios (incl. 3.4 AMG),
6.922 E 200 Cabrios,
8.458 E 220 Cabrios, sowie
12.229 E 320 Cabrios (incl. 320 CE)
68 E 36 AMG Cabrios

1990 2 Cabrios
1991 16 Cabrios
1992 5.069 Cabrios
1993 7.094 Cabrios
1994 7.358 Cabrios
1995 8.886 Cabrios
1996 4.144 Cabrios
1997 1.373 Cabrios

15.247 Fahrzeuge wurden exportiert, davon 6.140 Sechszylindermodelle
in die USA und 1.360 Rechtslenker nach GroĂźbritannien, weitere 310
nach Australien