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Continuous loud noise under engine when ignition off and key out

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#1 · (Edited)
Hi All,

Problem: When I drive my car (C180 W203 Year 2002) for a few km’s a strange loud humming/whistling noise start coming from under the engine (right side when you are sitting in the car). When I turn off the engine/ignition and take the key out the noise still remains. It sounds like an electric motor is running under the engine. The only solution to turn off the sound is by disconnecting the battery. When I reconnect the battery after 30 so mins the sound is gone. The problem is intermittent. Sometimes it happens after 5 mins and sometimes after 15 mins of city driving. The noise is there when the engine is not running so it can't be a belt rubbing against something. The oil pump shouldn't make the noise either because engine is off. The coolant is flowing fine when engine is running and when engine is off the coolant pump should be off anyway. I am really confused :confused:

Diagnosis:
1. Temperature: I monitored the temperature and it stays around 80 degrees when car is parked or in motion.
2. Checked coolant pump: I opened the coolant tank and started the car. I was able to see the coolant flowing.
3. Checked the belts and all belts seem to be in place.
4. Checked fan and there is no obstruction in the unit. The noise is not coming from the fan motor.
5. Engine Oil lever is ok.
6. Tried to pull out fuses one by one when the noise was there but it went away before I could pull all fuses out. Just wanted to identify the part using battery and making this noise.

Another thing I have noticed is that when I start the engine and then turn off the car in a few seconds, it makes a noise like made by pressure valves. I am not sure if this is related in any way.

I had the transmission and radiator replaced a year ago because radiator leaked contaminating the transmission fluid. There is no problem changing gears or in acceleration.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
#4 ·
Thanks for your reply. The noise is from the right bottom of the engine when you are sitting in the car. I am in Australia (steering wheel is on the right). I can understand my post was confusing. I have fixed it now.

The noise is like from a 0.5hp electric water pump or a small coffee bean grinder. When the noise starts it stays constant at same frequency for 15-20 mins. If I disconnect the battery and reconnect it, the noise starts again. I have to keep battery disconnected for 20-30mins before reconnecting for the sound to go away. I don't understand what part around engine block can use battery like this when the ignition is off. Initially I thought it was something trying to cool the engine but water pump, oil pump, alternator and most visible moving parts stop as soon as the engine is turned off. I checked the regulator fan and its not making this noise. I have no idea whats making this noise.

I will record the noise when I get home.
 
#3 ·
I would guess it's something to do with vacum or fuel pump/pressure. Once I started the car and backed out the garage into the driveway then turned it off. While washing the car I could hear a whistling noise in the front/Driver side. You had to be within 2 feet to hear the noise and it lasted about 15 - 20 minutes..
 
#5 ·
Thanks kalc240. The noise from my car is loud and can be heard from 8-10 feet. After reading your post I read about Fuel Pump Check Valve and Fuel Pumps (HERE). Maybe the pump is trying to build up pressure after I turn off the ignition and its unable to build any hence the noise. I will try to find ways to check the pump. Sometimes (once every two months) my car doesn't start for a few mins and then after a while it starts with lots of smoke. Recently it also started making a back pressure noise when I turn on and turn off it in 2-3 seconds. Maybe this is all because of the pump or valve. I will check and post results. Thanks for the tip.
 
#8 ·
If you have the "REST" function on the ACC panel, it can run the electric coolant pump and cabin ventilation fan, but you have to specifically press the button before exiting the car.
 
#9 · (Edited)
I'm a junior DIY'er here, but I'll give it a shot. Most of today's engines are built under vacuum, the only thing i can think of is a vacuum leak of some sort. If it still occurs while the engine turns off then dies over time, its some thing that's under high pressure. Air or coolant or refrigerant... It has to do with a small breach somewhere. If it creates a very high pitch sound, its a small hole, if its a deep throaty sound its a large hole...My guess is check anything vacuum related, air intake hoses, dip sticks, PCV and other type of coolant valves, A/C lines. Refrigerant is under high pressure...check to see if you are blowing cold cold air...but, if it only goes away by disconnecting battery only, its electrical...

2 cents
 
#13 ·
Same problem here with my 2002 C240. Just happened today for the first time. I checked the coolent temperature and it was normal. The noise was deferentially from the right side, like the other people described. At first I thought is was my electric fan running like crazy, but I looked under the hood and it was not running at all. Starting the car and turning it off again several times did not make the noise stop, but it did change the sound a little during the start as the power was drawn to the starter as would be expected.
 
#14 ·
When you hear the noise, put your hand on the auxiliary coolant pump (green arrow) and see if it is running. You could also pull the electrical connector to see if the noise stops.

This is most likely the noise you here and not a cause for concern.


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#18 · (Edited)
This is the alarm siren and a known issue with Mercedes of this age. The alarm siren has it's own rechargeable Ni-MH batteries to prevent someone from disabling the alarm system by disconnecting the main battery. Over time, they leak and corrode the circuit board leading to a non-stop alarm.

You have three options:
  1. Replace the siren with a new one (about $130 +/-)
  2. Take the old siren apart, hope the damage isn't too bad and replace the batteries (Here is a DIY from the SL forum. Same siren)
  3. Remove the old siren and live without it.
Instructions attached. Good luck!
 

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#17 ·
Update: I figured out what the sound was on my car. It was the air injection pump. It’s a smog thing to inject air into the exhaust. It smelled burnt. I replaced it easily, only took about five minutes. The check engine light is still on. I don’t know if I got a bad pump or if I need to replace the relay or fuse yet. I still need to work on it when I have time.