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Looking for a Wagon, well owned E430 or larger V8. Anyone interested in selling please pm or reply.
I'm also willing to pay $100 finders fee if its a referral.
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E63 wagon is over kill. you do not need 6.3 L in a wagon. Wagon never designed for speed. Bigger the engine do not equal to better handling, which is most important for high speed, safety.
 

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Ditto to daisound. I didn't know MB made an E500 wagon but that makes some sense. Maybe too the E550 in one but why the 6.3 liter AMG engine?
 

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Wagons are design for hauling. You could use 6.3 while towing 5000 lb trailer, what is allowed in all countries where ratings are made by engineers, not the lawyers ;)
I still remember an add for Volvo turbo wagon from about 20 years ago.
The add did show a Porsche towing big trailer.
 

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Sorry, I only use my K1500/350 CID x4 , TBI, GMC to tow my boat, not the Porsche. I need to cut my tree now as we have 75 F in DFW. The truck can haul all the trash to the city dump.
 

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I have no problem with wagons being able to both haul and also haul ass. I do believe the W210 was available in some markets with the earlier E55 engine. What is wrong with it? The chassis is perfectly capable of offering similar handling to the sedans.

Didn't ohlord transplant an E55 motor into a W210 wagon so that it is both fast and can pull his race trailer? That sounds like a much more fun vehicle to drive than a full size truck.

I would love to have an E63 wagon. As long as somebody else was paying for the gas that is.
 

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That remind me the gas-guzzling Chevy station wagon from 1980's I used to own briefly. Sold it because gas-guzzling newer made much sense to me.
The full size wagon was about 3 tons heavy and at one time I was carrying 1900lb of tiles in it. Than the 454 engine made the wagon real bada** in city traffic.
Than today's pickup make pretty lousy Tow Vehicles. Light weight with long rear overhang not only makes it sagging a foot under trailer tongue, but comes with fishtailing and other issues.
 

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I think GM has a dually for horse trailer or even your RV. But the hook up is at the middle of the bed not at the end of the box. So you never get sagging.
 

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5-th wheel and goose-neck hitches are mounted in front of the rear axle, so the weight puts a load on front axle instead of taking it off like the rear hitches do.
Unfortunately most of US-made pickups are build for convenience of sharp turns than safety of hauling. I did own older 1-ton crew cab who was excellent hauler. Took me 5 traffic lines to make a U-turn.
I had the experience that was confirmed by several other owners.
The Mercedes ML class with its short rear overhang and stiff suspension is way better TV (tow vehicle) than any US made 1/2 ton pickup. But sheees.. this becomes political ;)
I have also used W210 sedan for towing a trailer and it did just fine. The small utility trailer was never heavier than 1000 lb, but back in Europe I was towing 1500 lb trailer with 45HP Skoda sedan. No problem besides lack of power.
Cheap hitch disconnecting on sharp turn is another story. :D
 

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There are W210 E55 AMG estates here,if that's what you mean by wagon?
By wagons in the US we mean those with 3 rows of seats. There is one guy in California who has one (Euro spec he says) and it is very nice. Unfortunately they were never sold here.
 

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Bingo SHAUNE55! Bloody early or late for you about now isn't it? It's 23:44 here so it must be 05:44 in the UK!
 

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Hehe, I had the hours wrong! 5 hours difference between US east coast time and the UK.
You weren't far out..better than I would have done..you have a lot of time zones over there.........Just been watching the news about the mine in New Zealand....Very bad news.
 

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You weren't far out..better than I would have done..you have a lot of time zones over there.........Just been watching the news about the mine in New Zealand....Very bad news.
I haven't heard the fate of those miners yet. The last I knew the rescuers could not go in because there was a possibility of another explosion. There are a lot of coal mines around here and every so often there is a similar situation with many miners who die. The paychecks are good but the risks are high.
 
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