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I know we've beaten the subject to death. I even ran a search on this which turned up some pretty useful information.

I know that the bolt pattern is 5 x 130mm, the center bore is 84mm, offset less than 63mm will make the wheels and tires stick out more. My question is will these American racing wheels fit?



here are the wheel options:
size, offset, backside, bolt circle
16x8, 0, 4 1/2, 5-135
16x8, 0, 4 1/2, 5-4 1/2
16x8, 25, 5 1/2, 5-5 1/2
16x8, 0, 4 1/2, 5-5 1/2
15x8, -19, 3 3/4, 5-4 3/4
15x8, -19, 3 3/4, 5-4 1/2
15x8, -19, 3 3/4, 5-5
15x8, -19, 3 3/4, 5-5 1/2
15x7, -6, 3 3/4, 5-5
15x7, -6, 3 3/4, 5-4 3/4

Thanks in advance! [:)]
 

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Aw shucks! [:(] Well Harald, I feel mindful to say thanks again for the response! [:D]
 

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aftermarket wheels.

I think the trick to getting aftermarket wheels is finding an aftermarket company that makes a 16x8 or 16x8.5 alloy wheel that they already make with at least et43 and that will fit over the calipers. If anybody ever finds such a company i've got a drawing which details what clearance is required for the calipers.

Then all they have to do is modify the program used to make the machined pattern for bolt circle and hole center... which would be relatively straight forward.
 

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Back in the late 90's, American Racing made 500 AR23 (1 of their styles) wheels to a Land Rover bolt pattern. They were decent wheels. When everyone sold out, Safari Gard tried to order more. American Racing told Greg the Minimum order was 500! So if you want 500 wheels they will probably make you up an order of 5/130.
 

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Specs don't talk to another NAS G500 concern

The tough thing to figure without trying any wheel on the truck is whether they fit over the front brake calipers on the NAS G500. A lot of the low-end alloys use not-so-great materials and make up their strength in bulky cross sections in the wheel rim area. This = bad news for G500 brake clearance.

Any wheel you come up with that's less than 18" diameter (and even some 18's) will certainly have to be verified by putting tab A in slot B on the truck in order to be able to say whether they'll work or not.

Good luck!

-Dave G.
 

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RE: Specs don't talk to another NAS G500 concern

I have to somewhat disagree hipine. If someone has 5-10 minutes, a ruler and some patience you can figure out if a rim will fit without putting it on the truck. The steel rims i had made for my g500 fit just fine. They ofcourse had other issues that didn't meet my satisfaction, but the fit was quite good. The center bore was more snug than the factory alloys. They were built based solely on the drawing and information i provided them.

The qualifier is that the closer the rims is to interfering, the harder it will be to tell by measuring it.

Also to your point however, most 16" rims have a deeper "Drop" (the smallest rim ID used for mounting and dismounting tires) than will accomodate the calipers.
 

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What's "NAS"?

Hipine - 5/5/2005 5:18 PM

The tough thing to figure without trying any wheel on the truck is whether they fit over the front brake calipers on the NAS G500.
What is "NAS"??
 

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greenG - 5/6/2005 6:37 AM

North American Spec
That's what I thought. Dave's comment then gives somewhat of a misconception; since all G's after 1994 have the larger ventilated disc - not just those built to North American Spec.
 

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Thanks Dutch!

I had thought the MBUSA g's had bigger brakes than others and that only the US ones had issues with caliper clearance on 16" wheels. Somehow I had it in my head that the 16" G alloys would not fit the MBUSA trucks due to brake interference. Hmmm.

Oh well, live and learn. Thanks for clearing that up!

-Dave G.

PS - sorry about the "NAS" thing....It's not even really accurate here and I shouldn't use it, since I think the Canadian Gs are different from MBUSA ones. The shorthand is a hold over from my (GASP!) Land Rover days.
 

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RE: Thanks Dutch!

the 2005 g55k is the only truck with larger front discs that will not fit 16" rims. The last change to the brake hardware was the switch to rear (smaller than front) discs... don't know when that happened... '96? or '97?
 

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ewalberg - 5/7/2005 7:08 PM

the 2005 g55k is the only truck with larger front discs that will not fit 16" rims. The last change to the brake hardware was the switch to rear (smaller than front) discs... don't know when that happened... '96? or '97?
Don’t forget the BRABUS G V12.

The switch to rear disc brakes happened gradually from late `97. And from `99 all models had rear disc breaks.


2005 BRABUS G V12 Turbo (twin turbo):

Technical Data:

Engine: 12-cylinder
Capacity: 6233 cm³
Max.Power: 449kW*
0-100 km/h: 4,7 sec
Max. speed: 240 km/h

Export prise: 334.969,83 EURO!!! From Germany for a demo car.
 

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RE: Thanks Dutch!

Yeah, but that's not benz factory parts. Plus... I'm not to worried about a GV12 owner buying some 16" rims for his truck....

Either way... Is that your truck!?!? Wouldn't the to norway cost be at least +50% for luxury and sales taxes?

The pictures reminds me of some of the nice neighborhoods around oslo... if there were just some wild blueberry or raspberry bushes in the background...
 

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RE: Thanks Dutch!

ewalberg - 5/6/2005 4:57 PM



Either way... Is that your truck!?!? Wouldn't the to norway cost be at least +50% for luxury and sales taxes?
After a quick calculation, the Brabus would be ~735k US$ in Norway. The price in Germany is ~435k US$. If you can manage without the backseat you'll save ~152k, pretty expensive seat!

Frode
 
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