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Whirring noise from newer 722.6 when decelerating

5.4K views 6 replies 3 participants last post by  Jeremy Clarkson  
#1 ·
Some of you might remember I did a transmission rebuild a while back. The cause of the initial failure was the pump and the pump bearing. When it failed it started leaking but there was no noise coming from it. Since then the trans has been great. Until -
A week ago the trans started making a strange whirring noise when decelerating. The noise is definitely worse when cold but is always present. It is most apparent between 20-40 miles per house when letting off the gas. The sound changes with speed and doesn’t matter if the trans is in D or N. That makes me think it’s either on the output shaft side or it’s the propeller shaft center bearing.
I’m hoping it’s not the output shaft carrier bearing or something close to the middle of the trans. Could a bad conductor plate or any of the plastic values on the control body cause the sound (I didn’t change any of the internals or springs when I did the trans, I took everything apart and all of the components seemed to be in good shape, I figured if something went bad down the road I could change it). Does anyone has experience with this issue? Or an idea of anything to test. And does the trans axel sound like it’s coming from the center of the car or is it closer to the rear? And I’m trying to figure out if driving around is making it worse. I’d really hate to blow this thing up again.
I haven’t checked the trans with a scanner but there is no CEL. The only thing that might be off is it seems like the car revs slightly higher when going downhill than I remember but I’m not sure if that’s something that it’s always done and I’ve never noticed. There are no shift issues with the trans now so part of me just wants to leave it alone if it’s nothing major.
 
#2 ·
I'm having the same exact issue, main dealership technician told me this was normal for the W210 as they age and it'll stay like this for a long long time, nothing critical. But i'm not fully convinced, it sounds like it's tied to wheel revolution making a "wooooow wooooow wooooow" sound in that same exact speed range and it started doing it right after I replaced both flex discs replaced.

I'm not sure if I want to go in and replace the central bearing boot, bearing and rubber support but I suspect this might be it, technician told me if it were the bearing or the boot the sound would be much more pronounced.

That's just my 2 cents on the matter, same boat as you are in :) My 97 E200 has 240K Km and never had major suspension work done.
 
#3 ·
Yeah that sounds like exactly like the same sound i'm experiencing. I'm guessing you don't have trans/shift issues? I replaced both flex disks and the central bearing a while back didn't have any sounds since last summer. I think if you're going to go through all of the flex disks and central joint it's also worth it to start looking into changing the u-joint as well, that is the only thing I haven't replaced on the car and I hear they generally go back above 250k
 
#5 · (Edited)
Jeremy,

Yes, it is possible it is the propeller shaft center bearing. Check for loose bearing, but the reality is it can be the bearing, yet sadly you have to get it out to inspect it.

Springs....Valve springs-well I would change this guy:

https://www.sonnax.com/parts/2313-regulating-pressure-control-valve-spring

Your transmission being a 99, may have an updated valvebody, so it may not have the regulation spring above, but it may have have this one:

https://www.sonnax.com/parts/2325-tcc-damper-valve-kit



Oh yea a conductor plate can be at fault too, so check the speed sensors for hairline cracks with a magnifier...

It can be a black regulation solenoid(s) too, but my suspicion would indicate the problem would be when the transmission is hot, yet not cold...

I'd even inspect the transmission filter for it falling on the pan, or the element getting restricted....

I'd would not rule out a very rare possibility of cooler failure.

Orrrr.... no flow of the transmission pump, and for this you can disconnect the drivers exit cooler line going to a the radiator, and the flow should be like 15 to 20 seconds per quart while the engine is running in park.

This what comes to my mind, so I hope it helps..

Martin