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I used HR springs with koni adjustable shocks. #1 pad in front and #4 pad in the rear. I have 18" wheels. Car is GLUED to the road! Ride is stiff but not stupid stiff!
 

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I checked my car today and i have #5 pads in the front and #4 in the rear. Do you recommend getting new pads? Would it make a big difference? I'm getting H&R springs.
 

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The pads do make a difference. The smaller the pad, the stiffer the ride. I'd say the biggest difference is the small bumps in the road at speed. The larger pads dampen the rough ride a bit, but also alow for more body roll in corners.

I say do H&R springs with #2 or #3 pads and try for softer shocks. My Bilstiens HD's are very firm.
 

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I want to lower my car about 1.5 inches. Which springs do you guys recommend?

For your 1997 E320 here are the available lowering spring from H&R.

If you plan to change your OEM shocks also go with Bilstein Sport - best combination so far for H&R Sport Spring so far for my W210 E55.

Sport Spring - Approx. Front Lowering = 1.4; Appprox. Rear Lowering 1.3

Touring Cup - Approx. F = 1.4; Approx. R = 1.3

Sport Cup Kit - Approx. F= 2.0; Approx. R = 1.8

-JOE55
 

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I checked my car today and i have #5 pads in the front and #4 in the rear. Do you recommend getting new pads? Would it make a big difference? I'm getting H&R springs.
Well it's all depends if you want to lower it more, since you just want up to 1.5 lowered.
 

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Should I just put the bigger pad on the rear? I read somewhere that the rear springs tend to sag.
 

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I went with the 1-4's because I wanted a slight rake front to rear. As for the shocks Bilstein is excellent but I liked the idea of the adjustable KONIs. If you are changing springs I would change shocks too. Good luck let us know what you decide.
Oh by the way BENZ BUTTS DON"T SAG!!!!!!!
 

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I just ordered H&R sport springs from tirerack. I'll post pics when I get them on the car.
 

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You also ordered

new sport shocks ?The oe shocks will be to long for the short springs.Things need to remain in balance:D
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No I didn't order shocks. Im planning on getting new shocks soon. Will I be able to ride on the stock shocks until I get new ones?
 

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spring is shorter ,oe shock travel is longer and fully compressed may be a problem.
PM raymond or post a shout out,he has changed more spring,pads,and shocks than carter has liver pills:D
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I just ordered H&R sport springs from tirerack. I'll post pics when I get them on the car.
I think you will be able to get the springs in without replacing the shocks. But it will affect the ride. The person that told you the rear sags is some what right. With certain springs, if you leave the stock spring pads in, the rear will look lower than the front due to the ark and cut of the wheel wells (front is larger). Be sure to take the time to do it right. It will make a world of a difference. Good Luck

PS It took me several times to get the car sitting just where I wanted it, and level....
 

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spring is shorter ,oe shock travel is longer and fully compressed may be a problem....<....>
Note, however, that the Bilstein Heavy Duty and the Bilstein Sport....both have
the same travel length, and have same dampening characteristics. The difference
is that the HDs are approx 1.5" longer at full rebound vs the Sports.

General recommendation is that if you lower the car <=1" then lowering shocks
is not needed. But if your new springs results in the lowering of 1.5" or more,
then it is recommended that you pick up shocks designed to work in conjunction
with lowering springs as they are less likely to bottom out.

I'm not sure I agree that by utilizing shorter spring pads, that the ride will be
harsher. I can see how one might think this, given that there is less of a
cushioning effect between the spring and the sprint mount.

I would submit that the thicker pad serves to compress the spring more,
lending to the preloading of the spring. Preloading generally results in a
higher spring rate.

Finally, in respect to the Koni adjustable for the 210, I did experience this:
Koni #1 is like OEM shock/plush-but-scootch-firmer. Koni #2 and #3 settings
are stiffer than #1, but still....more compliant than HD and Sport.
 

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Note, however, that the Bilstein Heavy Duty and the Bilstein Sport....both have
the same travel length, and have same dampening characteristics. The difference
is that the HDs are approx 1.5" longer at full rebound vs the Sports.

General recommendation is that if you lower the car <=1" then lowering shocks
is not needed. But if your new springs results in the lowering of 1.5" or more,
then it is recommended that you pick up shocks designed to work in conjunction
with lowering springs as they are less likely to bottom out.

I'm not sure I agree that by utilizing shorter spring pads, that the ride will be
harsher. I can see how one might think this, given that there is less of a
cushioning effect between the spring and the sprint mount.

I would submit that the thicker pad serves to compress the spring more,
lending to the preloading of the spring. Preloading generally results in a
higher spring rate.

Finally, in respect to the Koni adjustable for the 210, I did experience this:
Koni #1 is like OEM shock/plush-but-scootch-firmer. Koni #2 and #3 settings
are stiffer than #1, but still....more compliant than HD and Sport.
Thanks for the info. I will be getting the bilstein sport shocks.
 

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I used H&R Sport Spring + Bilstein Sport Shock #2pads in front & #1 pad in rear = :thumbsup::thumbsup: Handling!

 
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