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Everybody to their own tastes and wallet size, but I don't see a lot of merit in an expensive high performance tire on a car as big and heavy as the W220. It's not a sports car, it's never going to be a sports car, and no matter what you do, the laws of physics are going to prevail.
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You obviously haven't driven the 600BT or 55 yet.
Find one and take it for a test drive! 800NM can do strange things even to the laws of physics.
 

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Gents,

I am going to wake this thread up.

It is 2019, and which is the SAFEST, Best Traction, softest, and quietest tire around ?

Thanks and best regards.
 

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Gents,

I am going to wake this thread up.

It is 2019, and which is the SAFEST, Best Traction, softest, and quietest tire around ?

Thanks and best regards.
I am using Continentals DWS and they are not too bad. I have heard great things on the Michelins Pilot Sports AS as well. I am sure someone will chime in shortly with more...
 

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I am using Continentals DWS and they are not too bad. I have heard great things on the Michelins Pilot Sports AS as well. I am sure someone will chime in shortly with more...
Hmmm,
I never tried continentals. right now I have Pirelli P7, and had michelins before that.

I have quit driving like i used to, and i follow a self imposed limit of 140 kmph.

so the safer and more comfortable, the better.
 

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WARNING: this is kind of a long post.

I can comment on the following tires, from personal experience.

Bridgestone Potenza RE970 A/S
Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+
Michelin Premier AS
General AltiMAX RT43
LingLong CrossTour (made in Thailand, not China)

It really does depend on what kind of driving you do, and every tire choice is a compromise. In the case of all-season tires, probably the most common type and the only type that I run at present, the compromise is, "jack of all trades, master of none." In other words, don't be a specialist, but do pretty well in all conditions.

For the type of driving I do, which is slightly spirited, but not trying to carve up mountain roads, any of the above are pretty good choices, with one particular combination providing the exception. That combination is the Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+ in icy conditions. The other tires do tend to grip somewhat better than the Pilot Sports in the ice. Yep, even the LingLongs, to my surprise. Snow (I know, technically ice, but a slightly different form) is a different matter; the Pilot Sports do OK (it is snow, after all) in that environment.

Until a week ago, the '03 S430 had the Bridgestone Potenza RE970 A/S's on there. They're good tires. They've got plenty of grip in dry or wet weather. Given that this is a high-performance tire, they do surprisingly well in the snow and even ice. They do tend to wear a bit on the faster side, compared to the other examples listed above. The ride is a little stiffer than the others, but not obtrusively so. For the tire's intended purpose, that may actually be kind of a good thing. It is a directional tire, so you have to bear that in mind during tire rotation, especially in a staggered-wheel configuration.

The '03 S430 now has Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+'s on it. There was a rather nice sale at Costco, so I went for those. Full set of 4 for less than US $800, out the door. Yeah, that's right. The Pilot Sport AS3+'s, like the Potenza RE970's, have lots of grip in wet and dry conditions. Total confidence. As I outlined recently in another thread about tires, they're basically a slightly more comfy version of the Potenza RE970's. In the snow, they're about what you'd expect a high-performance all-season tire to be. The Pilot Sports are slightly more slippery than the Potenzas in the snow, but you can still control the car just fine if you drive appropriately, so snow doesn't scare me. The ice is where the Pilot Sports fall on their faces by comparison. If you're in an area that doesn't get icy roads, e. g. the lower half of the Continental USA, the Pilot Sports are a fine choice. If you're in icy conditions, it's a good idea to have another car for that environment if you go with this model of tire.

The project 2000 S500 rides on Michelin Premier A/S's. This is a very good all-around tire. It's comfy, it's got good grip in all conditions, and it's available. It's considerably better in icy conditions that its Pilot Sport AS3+ stablemate. Like the Pilot Sports and the Potenzas, total confidence as long as you aren't trying to do Grand Prix-style driving. Now, the S500 does have 16" rims, so that will somewhat affect handling. But remember, I'm talking about street driving, not race karts here. :) For street driving, this is a Really Good Choice. The one downer is if your car is an S55 AMG or S600, or if you have the AMG Sport Package as the my '03 S430 does; it may not come in your needed tire size. I would've chosen the Premier A/S's if they'd been available. In general, this is now one of my two "go-to" tires for all-around driving (see below for the other).

The General AltiMAX RT43 really has surprised me. This is the other very good all-around tire and my other "go-to" model, even if it were at Michelin prices. The fact that it costs considerably less is just icing on the cake. The AltiMAX has proved to have impressive grip in all conditions, even icy roads. I first tried some on a couple of Honda Civics. They compared very well to the Michelin Defenders that are on another Honda Civic (all three are mid-1990's, front-wheel drive models). So, I decided to try out a set on the E320 CDI (rear-whell-drive). Oh, yeah. I'm all over these. Should Michelin discontinue the Premier A/S, I will fit General AltiMAXes to the project 2000 S500 in a heartbeat. I would do so on the other cars, too, except that they don't come in the sizes for AMG wheels. However, if you don't have AMG wheels, this is another really good choice. They're pretty comfy, too, and they don't have a lot of road noise. I'll put these back on when the current tire set (LingLong CrossTour) wears out. Historically, some of General's models haven't been the greatest, but they seem to have nailed it with this AltiMAX.

And now, the LingLong CrossTour. I saw the name and immediately thought, "what the Bay-Jeezus were the previous owners thinking, putting Chinesium tires on a Benz?" Yeah, these are the tires that came with the car when I bought it. Well, turns out these "Chinesium" tires actually aren't Chinesium; thay're Thailandium. :) Yep, made in Thailand. And I'll be doggoned; they're really not bad, and I'd even say pretty good. Yeah, I know, but it's true. I drove these in ice, too. Better grip than the Pilot Sport AS3+'s, and pretty close to the General AltiMAXes and Michelin Premiers, I'd say about like the Bridgestone Potenza RE970's that shod the '03 S430 until last weekend. Dry and wet grip is, again, pretty good. I had to do a panic stop in the E320 CDI with these CrossTours. This being a W211, it has Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC), and yes, with these tires and that brake system, the car stopped on a freakin' dime. Collision avoided. I was impressed. Snow, they do pretty well for an all-season tire, too. The E320 CDI is currently shod with these CrossTours, and when they do eventually wear out, the AltiMAXes will go back on. Why? The AltiMAX does have slightly better grip, and it's just as reasonably priced as the CrossTour is, so the AltiMAX does give you a bit more for your buck.
 

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Now that we've talked about safety, let's rate them for comfort. I have driven all of these tires on highway trips lasting at least 140 miles (225 kilometers).

1.) Michelin Premier A/S
2.) Tie between General AltiMAX RT/43 and Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+
3.) LingLong CrossTour
4.) Bridgestone Potenza RE970 A/S

Note: this list is relative. Even though the Potenza RE970's are last in comfort, that does not mean that they're actually "uncomfortable". They do have a sportier ride, as befits their intended application, i. e. that's the point of a high-performance tire. They're actually fine on long, 12-hour-drive stretches, and I have done just that with the Potenzas.

I expected the Michelin Premiers to rank high in comfort. Matter of fact, I rate them #1 of the tires that I've used. It's like riding on a cloud. This is the tire that you pretty much have to have a functional sound system for, otherwise the sumptuous ride will hypnotize you to sleep on the road. :)

The Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+'s are performance tires, and on wet or dry roads, they grip like it, too. I've long been impressed by the level of comfort that this tire provides. Even the 19", low-profile ones on my S600 are pretty comfy, and on the '03 S430 with the 18" rims, it's very nice, indeed. The Premiers outdo them, yes, but again, the Pilot Sport is a performance tire. That a performance tire has this nice of a ride is impressive. But that's Michelin for ya.

What really surprised me were the General AltiMAXes. They get edged out in comfort by the Premiers, but they are a dead-on match for the Pilot Sports, and the Pilot Sports are definitely comfortable. The fact that the AltiMAX has a "budget" price tag on it, and is runnin' with the big boys, is rather astonishing. That's right, a "budget-priced" tire is running neck and neck with a high-performance Michelin. Think about that for a moment.

The LingLong CrossTours also kinda surprised me. The lady is driving the car with these tires, and she does like the ride. The Premiers outdo them, of course, as do the AltiMAXes and Pilot Sports, but given that it's a budget tire, I say, "so what?" The AltiMAX is a better tire, but for ride comfort, the CrossTour's within striking distance of it, and thus, also Michelin's (rightly) vaunted Pilot Sport.

The Bridgestone Potenzas are performance tires, and they let you know that. They do have a bit more road noise than the previously mentioned models, and the ride is a bit firmer. Again, though, that's the point; it's a *performance* tire, and it doesn't try at all to hide that fact. Matter of fact, it kinda revels in it. I'd have these on a Corvette in a heartbeat. Same goes for a Porsche 911 or Boxster, any Ferrari, or any of the modern "pony cars" like the Mustang GT, Camaro SS, and so on. While it does do cruising pretty well, this tire is really most at home on a sporty gran-turismo vehicle.
 

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Salman is in the middle east , so I doubt he drives in ice or snow and probably not too much rain either !!

The qualities you are looking for -“ safest softest best traction “ means you want a soft compound tire . So avoid any “high mileage” , long wear, or low rolling resistance tires .

The downside is you’ll be replacing tires every 20k miles instead of 40k miles . Look for treadwesr ratings under 400. Really any major brand will offer a good tire .
 

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Thanks you gentlemen @tusabes, @Coyboyt, @Wallpy and @welwynnik for your advice and support.

It seems like Michelin Premier will be done. ( Comfort and Safety ).

Oddly the tires will cost me around 12% of the car's value.

I had them last time, they lasted around 60K km. and that includes driving above 240kmph.
I shifted to pirelli p7 after that; and for what it is worth the P7 grip slightly better than Michelin.

My only reservation is that previously we used to get made in Germany, and made in France product.

Now it is the Checz Republic and Romania.

that kind of shakes my confidence and made me look into Kumho, since that was coming direct from manufacturer.

Any words on which country of manufacture are you gentlemen using ? any advice in choosing one better than other ?


Thanks and best regards.
 

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Only one comment - there is a huge Kumho tire plant just a few miles from me (just North of Atlanta, Georgia in the southeastern USA).
Michelin manufactures tires in six states: Alabama, Indiana, Ohio, Oklahoma, North Carolina and South Carolina. In addition, there are three plants in Nova Scotia, Canada and one plant in Queretaro, Mexico.

Brand name is no indicator of where tires are made...
 

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On my s600 With amg s65 20 inch wheels am using firestone Indy , on my cl600 with amg 18 wheels I am using Chinese sunfull sf888, on my clk430 with amg 17 inch wheels I am using falken and on my brabus clk 5.8 with 19 inch brabus wheels I am using pirelli . All are good tires even the sunfull ! Different sizes have different brands with the best price in the USA , some tires have closeout deals etc - and each of these was under $90 even the 275/35/20 and 265/35/19
 

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