[H.R.H. benz]

Please help me!
I am confused now, there are 2 cars.

1992 500 SEL

1995 500 SEL

Both are in good condition please advise a.s.a.p.
What are the difeerence.
thanx

 

[Peter Guenther]

I own a 92 with 80,000, during its life it has had the AC replaced $4,000 (common on most no matter the year)a rebuilt bose amp $600, two close assist pumps $.800 (one customer adjust) engine and trans mounts, lower control arm bushings and sway bar links, in addition to brakes, tuneups (expensive), lots of tires, alignments and excessive tire balancing, since it has always had a slight vib. at 45 which is quite common. Bridgestone tires, the front end re-done and "road force balancing have all but eliminated that. You should check the service records of either one, the 95 probably does not have the vib. issue since they made some suspension changes

 

[posix]

Somehow I cannot swallow a vibration at 45 being "normal" or there even being a "vibration issue". How about you do that full wheel-balance again? You'd be surprised at how much wheel balancing people leave on there. Or perhaps a badly curbed alloy? Those can be difficult to balance and tire people usually give up on them as soon as they hit 30-40g difference between sides.

 

[Peter Guenther]

posix - 3/9/2005 3:22 PM

Somehow I cannot swallow a vibration at 45 being "normal" or there even being a "vibration issue". How about you do that full wheel-balance again? You'd be surprised at how much wheel balancing people leave on there. Or perhaps a badly curbed alloy? Those can be difficult to balance and tire people usually give up on them as soon as they hit 30-40g difference between sides.

I have at least 15 pages of warranty work, including upper control arms, drive shaft, rear end work, steering damper. It was looked at by at least three different dealers in Chicago and in Florida. The fact of the matter it was a known product issue, and if you subscribe to at least the five forums I frequent I am not the only one who has discussed it. It is as and as good as it has ever been since 94. I am very familiar with the hunter "road force balancer" and had good results with balancing on the car with a strobe. There are not too many MB dealers that do the "fine line" balance any more. The daler in Florida removed the wheels from another vehicle and it was still there. I always purchased michelin MXV4s, the car shipped with Pirelli and those were replaced because they "flat spotted" and were replaced with a lower speed rating and sticker put in the owners manual and dash. If you look at the "95 intro to service manual" the car was lowered overall and some suspension components were changed. I have a very good friends at the MB dealersip down here both the shop forman and the senior service writer "its the car" sometimes we get it right if we fool with it long enugh. I am in one of those lull moments at present!
So there, be happy that you dont have the issue on your 300

 

[Merc600sec]

Go for the 95 model.. the computers in the 92 are mostly not digital.. and it makes everthing very hard to work on..also check to see if it is OBD2.. makes life so much easier.. oh and the gearbox find out what number it is..I woud realy buy the 95....

 

[pcmaher]

The 95 is not OBDII. It is OBD, or since OBDII came out, it's now called OBDI. I believe that 1996 was the first year OBDII was used. My 95 has a mix of digital and analog systems. It's very confusing. I would buy the newer car, as long as the conditions of the cars are comparable.