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With a lot of extra time on my hands, I find I’m looking at the newer versions of the eclass wagons. My current 03 w210 4matic wagon has 238,000 miles on it, and I’m going to go for 300,000, but still I have begun at least looking just in case there is ever a repair that just isn’t worth it. My question is, does the w212 version really go on until 2017 and if so, which years of it are recommended? Any years to specifically avoid? I guess I should also move over to the w212 forum, but since I am in my 2nd w210, I feel more at home here. Thanks!


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With a lot of extra time on my hands, I find I’m looking at the newer versions of the eclass wagons. My current 03 w210 4matic wagon has 238,000 miles on it, and I’m going to go for 300,000, but still I have begun at least looking just in case there is ever a repair that just isn’t worth it. My question is, does the w212 version really go on until 2017 and if so, which years of it are recommended? Any years to specifically avoid? I guess I should also move over to the w212 forum, but since I am in my 2nd w210, I feel more at home here. Thanks!


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Better to move your thread over to the w212.
More input from that forum, to assist you in your decision, I believe.
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Having worked on both 210 and 212, the newer car is more expensive to maintain, and if you're planning on DIYing bunch of stuff, you will need a SDS....and a buddy with online programming, or a indy/dealership to do programming for you.

Damn near everything on the 212 requires online programming after replacement. Replace front SAM unit? Collision avoidance module? Blind spot monitoring? COMAND stereo with display? LED headlight module? All will require online programming, and a regular clone SDS cannot do that. So there is extra cost in that.

Newer engines are much nicer, better on gas and more powerful....but not necessarily as easy or as cheap to maintain like 210.

You have to judge your time and your money -- is it worth the extra expense per year for maintenance and insurance to have a 212? Or 210 might be better kept alive for as long as feasibly possible?
 

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Having worked on both 210 and 212, the newer car is more expensive to maintain, and if you're planning on DIYing bunch of stuff, you will need a SDS....and a buddy with online programming, or a indy/dealership to do programming for you.

Damn near everything on the 212 requires online programming after replacement. Replace front SAM unit? Collision avoidance module? Blind spot monitoring? COMAND stereo with display? LED headlight module? All will require online programming, and a regular clone SDS cannot do that. So there is extra cost in that.

Newer engines are much nicer, better on gas and more powerful....but not necessarily as easy or as cheap to maintain like 210.

You have to judge your time and your money -- is it worth the extra expense per year for maintenance and insurance to have a 212? Or 210 might be better kept alive for as long as feasibly possible?
Thank you, this was essentially my plan, keep the 210 going as long as possible. I sold my previous one too soon because I got nervous about the mileage, and in hindsight that was a mistake, though the cars are much older now. Something to factor in, cost of maintenance is higher. I don’t like that!
 

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I think by the time you get your wagon to 300k miles, you might have W216 on the market ;)
W212 avoided all the ops previous digital cars had. Some might not remember, but W210 were consider lemons in their early years as electronics sensors were failing like crazy. That stopped when upgraded sensors were installed later in their life.
But new technology is more demanding, parts are much more expensive and I think it was 2014 when MB incorporated SCN coding. I fight it with https://repair.org/stand-up but that is uphill battle.
That said when mechanical parts improved, some W212 owners complain about seats stitches coming loose, or wood trims fading. My cars have seats in perfect condition regardless high mileage, so that seem to be hit or miss.
Have fun shopping around.
 

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Thank you Katjek! Lol, yes, maybe so, as you say, I might be premature in my search! Someone on the other forum also mentioned seats, and staying away from.... can’t remembered what they called it, but the fake leather, Mb Tex maybe. Otherwise, the few folks loved their w212s from 2014, but both had really low miles still. I saw one for sale for what seemed like a really reasonable price and I THINK it was a diesel, though the add listed it as gas, in the photos is had the bluefficiency emblem on the side of the car. I know you appreciate the diesels, at least the older ones.
 
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