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I came across a sub 100,000 mile 560sl that has storm damage to the body, mainly across the hood and the passenger, rear fender and trunk area. It would need major body work to the trunk area as it is bent and this is an area that needs banging out or a donor weld in from another vehicle. It also took out the same side tail light. Hood would likely have to be replaced.

Car has a salvage title which kills the value no matter if one could get it cheap enough and fix the body damage.

The car could be a very nice value for parts even though it is road worthy.

Owner recently put in a complete, new A/C system A/C (from the dryer to compressor, etc), new ignition coil, drive shaft flex joint, all ball joints and engine mounts and subframe mounts, Steering coupler and joints and more.

Soft top is nearly new.

The black interior looks to be in great shape from what he says and from what I can tell.

It supposedly runs tip top.

As a parts car in great running condition, what do you think it would be worth in terms of easy to sell and very usuable parts? I was considering purchasing if price is right and taking out the new A/C to replace my old system which I believe also leaks. Not sure how much a new A/C spec'ed out parts list would be...

I would think the front seats in very nice shape would be desirable. They are of no use to me since they are black UNLESS I could have them dyed to match? My seats are toast...I could just swap out the new top before putting on my new one that I just ordered.

Not sure that I could "re-use" some of the new parts like engine mounts etc without a lot of labor to get them out. Maybe not?

Is there a general value from the vets here who have looked at many a CL listing, etc? If this car wasn't wrecked, I would think it would be a $10,000 car based on what it appeared to be before an accident.

I hate to take a perfectly good running car off the road, but it would take the right person to drop what I suspect is easily $3,000 or more into body work on a salvage title car.

Withholding the asking price as to not bias those who might comment on value.
 

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It seems the main reason you would want the car is to swap out your HVAC system. Not sure if you've looked into it, but that system is incredibly complex and a lot of it lives deep inside the dash. Getting it swapped out is an enormous task and unless you're comfortable doing it yourself, it's gonna cost into the multiple thousands for the labor alone.

All that said, these cars aren't that desirable yet - almost anything with a salvage title is only good as a driver (which is all I care about) or a parts car, but it's never gonna bring good money. I would think tops that car could fetch is gonna be about 3500 but that is just a ballpark.
 

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Darryl, HVAC is one thing. We still have the old system and I would like to upgrade to the new one. Don't know if your comments regarding labor apply or not in terms of swapping out an old for new system because I don't know what old parts stay and what new ones go. I would like to upgrade to a modern refrigerant system. Definitely can't do it myself but I have a family member who is capable. If labor is that much, not likely we would be paying someone and more than likely to continue band aiding our current one that probably has a leak. Perhaps this is more than I realized.

It has a great soft top which I could swap out and it would save me money since I have not installed mine yet.


I figured that the fog lights and headlights would fetch decent prices. Original trim, etc. Not sure of value of seats in ready to go shape. Blower motor.


I agree on driver and desirability, but the body work is probably more than I quoted, so I'm not sure anyone would invest that. I think it's a "reliable" driver for someone in need of an affordable car (until they have to maintain it...)
 

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There have been other part outs of these SLs and I have purchased a
number of parts. Interior Trim, glass, bumper rubber, head lights, tail lights,
and even the nuts & bolts. I saw an Ebay sale of a bag of nuts/bolts/brackets go
for a nice price. Little things like wood trim pieces can fetch a good price
along with the HVAC fan motor assembly. There would be a lot of labor in
disassembly and time to package up for shipping.
If I had workshop space I would like to do a part out of an SL.
$2500 to me seems a bit too high from what I have observed but this car
is supposed was in pristine condition. Pristine parts would sell very easily.
 

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Hood and fenders might be easy but it looks like you need a serious hammer to repair that quarter panel.

Then paint.

Yeah. It will make one damn fine parts car. $2500 is high for a parts car, but it is worth more than that in parts, but there's a lot of labor in turning a car into parts and getting money for them. So...
 

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Rowdie, because I didn't want any bias. Just a number and then I could compare. I hadn't seen that listing. It's in my area for $3,000. I was hoping to make contact and an offer if it made sense. That body would seem pretty extensive. It is a shame.

I was really hoping that I could convert my A/C with the new parts but perhaps that is too extensive and expensive.
 

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I think an AC conversion is usually changing the receiver/drier (part cost less than $100), all the rubber O-rings to the green R134a type, flushing the system with a solvent that will remove the R12 oil, and putting in R134a compatible "pag oil" before filling it with R134a. I don't know of any parts that are high value and directly a part of a 134a conversion.
 

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Rowdie, because I didn't want any bias. Just a number and then I could compare. I hadn't seen that listing. It's in my area for $3,000. I was hoping to make contact and an offer if it made sense. That body would seem pretty extensive. It is a shame.

I was really hoping that I could convert my A/C with the new parts but perhaps that is too extensive and expensive.
Readers of the for sale sub-forum would know what the price is. If you had posted the $3,00.00 asking price I would have directed you to the $2,500.00 asking price there.

Saved you $500.00 right there. Your welcome.:)
 

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Thanks for the A/C info and thanks Rowdie. I was thinking $2500 myself because he had it listed with O.B.O. I think he likely has it sold to the body shop for $2500 if nothing else since it's here as "best offer above $2500.

If I had black front seats, I would likely jump on this. I could use the top and a set of seats. I'll be in $1,000 to have the seats done by the time I pay labor and for new covers. I am not a DIY guy and I think the seats will need some beefing up as well.

The HVAC control unit appears to bring $400 or so online. I would think rubber trim pieces $50 each, soft top $400, seats $500?, convertible top hinge covers $100, a good fuel pressure regulator and sensor, etc. It seems things could add up quickly, just not sure what it would junk for after stripping the easy stuff. No room here for another vehicle...
 

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At most the car is worth $1200. That is what a drivable salvage title car sells for at my local PnP. The yard pays $300 for scrap value, and makes a killing selling to guys willing to yank a part. If they clear $1100, that is gravy.

Ebay is bullshit. Prices there are for idiots who have no clue how to find a parts yard. Seats at a yard are $30. Thirty bucks if they look new or like crap. All the parts you list are easy to source at a yard and for pennies compared to flea bay or CL. Though there are folks who will pay excessive prices because they do not know any better.

If the unibody out the back is still ok, maybe you should hit a Pull a part yard and scrounge up the body panels the car needs. Should take an afternoon to liberate them from a donor car that was smacked on the opposite side. That might be all of $200 in sheet metal.
 

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Have you considered paintless dent removal? It is possible to massage metal back and remove most dents without having to paint.

Never mind, seen the pictures, couldn't be fixed this way when it is that bad.
 

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I came across a sub 100,000 mile 560sl that has storm damage to the body, mainly across the hood and the passenger, rear fender and trunk area. It would need major body work to the trunk area as it is bent and this is an area that needs banging out or a donor weld in from another vehicle. It also took out the same side tail light. Hood would likely have to be replaced.

Car has a salvage title which kills the value no matter if one could get it cheap enough and fix the body damage.

The car could be a very nice value for parts even though it is road worthy.

Owner recently put in a complete, new A/C system A/C (from the dryer to compressor, etc), new ignition coil, drive shaft flex joint, all ball joints and engine mounts and subframe mounts, Steering coupler and joints and more.

Soft top is nearly new.

The black interior looks to be in great shape from what he says and from what I can tell.

It supposedly runs tip top.

As a parts car in great running condition, what do you think it would be worth in terms of easy to sell and very usuable parts? I was considering purchasing if price is right and taking out the new A/C to replace my old system which I believe also leaks. Not sure how much a new A/C spec'ed out parts list would be...

I would think the front seats in very nice shape would be desirable. They are of no use to me since they are black UNLESS I could have them dyed to match? My seats are toast...I could just swap out the new top before putting on my new one that I just ordered.

Not sure that I could "re-use" some of the new parts like engine mounts etc without a lot of labor to get them out. Maybe not?

Is there a general value from the vets here who have looked at many a CL listing, etc? If this car wasn't wrecked, I would think it would be a $10,000 car based on what it appeared to be before an accident.

I hate to take a perfectly good running car off the road, but it would take the right person to drop what I suspect is easily $3,000 or more into body work on a salvage title car.

Withholding the asking price as to not bias those who might comment on value.
I saw that one on Craigslist last week too! Shame about the tree. My thoughts on HVAC work after having completely redoing and converting the one in my car are first that I would really recommend putting new or rebuilt components in. First the compressor... you can see it down there but good luck actually extracting it without removing a number of other components and lines first! Then there's the added trouble you go through if it turns out other components are bad. I just replaced everything that didn't require pulling the dash to get to and have had ice cold A/C for the last 3 years.

I'm not sure if a top could be pulled from one car and reinstalled on another... you'd need to pull the frame along with it for sure.

Honestly for $2,500 you could probably buy and install the parts you want without dealing with all of the work that comes along with parting the rest of the car out.

BTW if you see a twin of your car with a burgundy interior, that one's mine! I'm mostly around downtown, West Ashley and James Island.
 

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Convertible top, frame and all, is is fairly easy to swap between cars. Four bolts, two springs. There are also some shims. Getting it adjusted is a little fiddly but doable.
 
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