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That sucks. Happened to me aswell just a few months ago.
Hopefully they do a better job replacing the rusted part that holds the brake line, instead of using zip ties like a local garage did to mine.

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Dorgler will use the correct parts and will not pull tricks. Thanks for sharing your travails.
 

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I had replaced the originals 2 months ago. (post 5965 with picture). It was a pretty simple DIY and does not require a lift, just a jack and perhaps a jack stand to make it safe. The originals were starting to develop cracks in the rubber.
 

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I had replaced the originals 2 months ago. (post 5965 with picture). It was a pretty simple DIY and does not require a lift, just a jack and perhaps a jack stand to make it safe. The originals were starting to develop cracks in the rubber.
Almost all rubber on the car is cracking. Do you still have the rubber in the antenna?
The first time I washed the car the thing just completely disintegrated
 

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Rubber on mine are fine except the antenna. Both pieces disintegrated on me a couple years back. Now I have new ones in, set for the next 20 years!
 

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I had replaced the originals 2 months ago. (post 5965 with picture). It was a pretty simple DIY and does not require a lift, just a jack and perhaps a jack stand to make it safe. The originals were starting to develop cracks in the rubber.
I am writing not about the rubber brake hoses, but rather about the steel brake lines. I have been replacing the hoses routinely throughout the nearly thirty year life of my car, and all I ever used was a jack.
 

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Oh I see, I missed that you said steel break lines in the original post, though the picture looked like it was the connection point to the steel line on the rubber side. Over here in CA mild weather we don't imagine steel breaking down, even the rubber lasted 30+ years and only changed as a precaution. New York weather is perhaps a lot harsher on the car parts.....
 

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Replaced differential fluid. It was with much teeth gnashing and curse words that the 2 14mm plugs finally came off. Especially with the car on the ground: no hydraulic jacks, no stand, no rams. Just reaching and crawling as far as I could under the car.
 

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Tried new trans fluid and filter and no dice, I'm thinking the cars going to sit for the summer until I can pay for a nice new rebuilt trans from Sun Valley. Somebody send me a list of to-dos while the car is down. :D

I think I know what the issue is however. When it started slipping I was hearing a clicking noise while decelerating. I know no longer have slipping gears nor did I find any issues in the pan however I can barely get the thing to upshift (its not the kickdown). I believe the centrifugal gears are done and them losing teeth was the clicking I was hearing. Since you have to pull the trans to fix those I'm just going to do a full trans swap in the fall, the things never shifted good enough for me anyway.
 

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Hit the motherload of info today, playing around on Carfax they have a new "My Garage" section. Threw my VIN in and found 20 years of service history. I've found a few things that make me very happy, the cars at 193k now.

181k: Belt tensioner and water pump replaced
175k: O2 Sensor
155k: Head Gasket Replaced :D

Along with a lot of very regular maintenance in between. History goes back to 2001 when the car has 98k on it.
 

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Hit the motherload of info today, playing around on Carfax they have a new "My Garage" section. Threw my VIN in and found 20 years of service history. I've found a few things that make me very happy, the cars at 193k now.

181k: Belt tensioner and water pump replaced
175k: O2 Sensor
155k: Head Gasket Replaced :D

Along with a lot of very regular maintenance in between. History goes back to 2001 when the car has 98k on it.
That mycarfax vehicle history is great. Just don't keep adding and deleting cars, otherwise they'll disable your account and tell you to get a dealer account ;)
 

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Since the cars sitting for the summer I figured I'd dig into the engine a bit. My car left the production line about 3 months before they switched to the improved camshaft and rockers. Before I spend a day at the junkyard pulling them out of a '90 can someone tell me how these look?

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Not too bad. Put a screwdriver across the tip of the lobes on #1 and #6 cylinders and see how much of a "catch: there is.
If you intend to keep the car, I would strongly suggest the trip to the junnkyard nevertheless. Decent post '89 W201's have pretty much dried up already.
The peak was 3 years ago. Also you do not want to pull camshaft and rockers (yes you need the rockers too) of any 256K mile car.

Looks like your car received the factory update to the dripper design. Make sure that is the case.
 

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This is at my local pick n pull, I think its around 150k. I've done some reading and it seems like I can easily get the rockers out, a little worried about doing the camshaft. Pull dist cap, rotor and orange cover and then chain tensioner, would that allow me to get the camshaft out? This is my first dive into messing about in an engine itself.

I think I do have the updated dripper because the bolt closest to the front of the engine was finger loose, so I'm really glad I opened things up to take a look.

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What's the production date on your 89?
Dolucasi and I were talking about when the switchover occurred a while ago since he and I both have 89's.
If I recall his had a production date of 2/89 (soft cam) and my car was 3/89 and had the hardened cam.
 

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Got it! Yeah definitely do the update then to the hardened camshaft. Removal is pretty much as you described.
Just make sure you have a hex socket set for the chain tensioner. If I remember, the outer cover is 12mm and the inner part is 17mm.
 
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