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What vehicles can I get wheels from at the junk yard that will fit he W123?

Looking for 15"s and definitely not alloys.
 

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i believe there are none unless you are willing to redrill the center bore on a 5x112 VW wheel; or use wobble bolts, making 5x110 and 5x114.3 wheels possible options.
 

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I'm 99% sure that W126 steels will fit. I'm probably going to find out later this week. I've got some off Ebay Germany for my 114 (they definitely fit 114/115) and am in the process of converting my W123 with some too. They take a plastic W126 cap, maybe the 14" original W123 hubcap. I'll report back.
 

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Just to update, the 7" W126 wheels don't fit at the front. they would need a spacer of about 15mm to clear the steering arm. Centre bore is spot on though.

I believe there is a 6" wide 15" steel wheel that fits and will investigate further. I won't have any definite answers quickly though.
 

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Do they fit the back? I'm only interested in the back.

What's a wobble bolt?

OK googled wobble bolt ;)

So Mercedes is a 5x112mm bolt pattern, with wobble bolts I could get a 5x4.5" wheel on it perhaps, which means early Ford or Jeep wheels are possible.
 

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Do they fit the back?

What's a wobble bolt?
Yes they fit the back.

A wobble bolt is a bolt that takes up the discrepancy between the pcd of the wheel and that of the hub. Apart from that I don't know much about them.



Just in case there are suspension differences, mine is a 200 petrol auto. Perhaps a 280E or diesel has chunkier suspension bits and further clashes.

The tyre guy said a 16" wheel by 7" of same ET would clear the steering arm but Ideally check first.

I'm off to look for 15 x 6" steels on German Ebay.

Oh, the 14" chromed steel hubcaps don't fit the 15" steels unless you force them further than they're designed. it might be possible to adjust or change the spring clips but I don't know.
 

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Ok.
Wont be any difference between fitment on the w123, even if it happened to have bigger rims, it shares the same front end as the w126 constructionwise, and most parts are interchangeable out at the rim, the w126 gen2 brake upgrade is pretty nice for example. althou with the gen2 brake upgrade you wont be able to fit 14" steelies any longer.
at the rear ive had no problem with any rim, from 16" 8" wide ET35 to 18" ET35 8" wide you can go down in offset to about ET25 with that width imo without any problem, would be nice to find a 9" wide 16" steel rim.

al MB rims is 5/112, what differs is the ET/offset, and later benzes like the r129 and the w140 had m14 bolts instead of the m12 1.5 the w123/w126/w115/w124 ETC has.
the center is the at 66.6mm

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15"
there is a stock 15" steel that is 5.5" wide, and came on the touring 240d and the ambulance and limos (up here in northern Europe atleast - Sweden)
1234001002, also exist with a 115 number that has a slightly different layout, Dieselkraut here on the forum has both of those types, i only the 123 numbered (afaik atleast)

the w126 steelies 15" with et25 that is 7" wide do work on the w123 without problems
1264002802, A1264002802, 1264003902, A1264003902

The same goes for the et37 w210 15" steel that is 6.5" wide
2104000202

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16" steelies:
i today lowered my w123 down on
16" 7" et33 wide rims from a newer benz like the w210 or something, worked great in the front with much room over to the tierod.
in the back two 16" r129 rims 8" wide and with ET35 looked pretty nice.
1294000202 Südrad 8jx16h2 SRD161
this setup with a set of slick-tires or Toyo888 ought to behave good. pic below



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15" 7" alu with an offset of 35 or 30 wont work on a w123, but the sweetspot is at ET35, (the 15" bundts and the Pentas is a few mm of that ET depending on brand.
16" 8" wide alu with an offset of 35 wont work either, (on the types ive tried, they touch the tierod) some brands might just work. il try the 8" in the front tomorrow
17" ET35, the 7.5" wide works perfect, while the 8" wide just barely touches the tierod. (althou both of them touches the chassie on the inside when turning at max, (ex while parking) not a problem, but one can feel them rubbing ever so gentle.
 

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Weird.

I put the spare tire from mine, on a buddy's trailer, so I figured it might be a common wheel size, I was hoping for a cheap replacement.
 

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No, they're 5 on 4.5 so that's 114, I'd need wobble bolts.

Basically, I need some new tires, and I'd like to stick some old truck tires on the back, that are 15"s, for various reasons, but if it's gonna be more hassle and expense then I won't bother. Right now it looks like I can get trailer wheels or wheels of a 80's Ford F-100 that are 5-114's, anything else not so much, nothing that's a 5-112 that I can find that would be commonly available. I kinda like the tall and skinny at the back idea.
 

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the w126 steelies 15" with et25 that is 7" wide do work on the w123 without problems
1264002802, A1264002802, 1264003902, A1264003902

The same goes for the et37 w210 15" steel that is 6.5" wide
2104000202
The 15" 7" ET25 W126 steel wheel is physically touching the steering arm at the ball joint. I asked someone (Home - M-B V8conversions) who puts V8s into W123s and he said change the arm from a W123 to a W126 one.
 

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No, they're 5 on 4.5 so that's 114, I'd need wobble bolts.

Basically, I need some new tires, and I'd like to stick some old truck tires on the back, that are 15"s, for various reasons, but if it's gonna be more hassle and expense then I won't bother. Right now it looks like I can get trailer wheels or wheels of a 80's Ford F-100 that are 5-114's, anything else not so much, nothing that's a 5-112 that I can find that would be commonly available. I kinda like the tall and skinny at the back idea.
 

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The MB 203 400 00 02 - 6jx15 e30 steel wheels fit just fine. They also work for the Gen 2 front brake upgrade.
 

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After looking about, I think I may just go with some 215/75/14's instead, they're a couple of inches bigger than the 195/70/14's I have, and they won't foul the arches, I might even be able to put them on the front as well.

It's amazing the difference, just between the 70 ratio and the 75, it can be bigger than a couple of sizes.

Thanks for all the suggestions, and wobble bolt education :D
 

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If you haven't already, check the price and availability of 14" vs 15" tyres. It's a big factor in switching out my 114 and (eventually) 123
 
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