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Pump working fine and boot lid working perfectly but all 4 doors don't even try, even after unplugging power supply to re set, wondering if computer has cut signal to it and if so will it need to be re set with the star system or anyone else had a similar problem? Thanks, Peter
 

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First, figure out WHY the computer cut power to those circuits....resetting the pump over and over is a great way to burn up the pump. The pump protects itself from burn out by shutting down those circuits that take an excessive time to actuate. The excessive time means there is a leak, or failed actuator, on that circuit. These circuits have hard plastic vacuum lines that become brittle with age, and actuators with plastic parts and diaphragms that become brittle. If you’re asking me to guess which lines or actuators broke in your case, that’s difficult to do over the Internet.... you’re going to have to get a vacuum gauge, a hand pump, and start chasing down each circuit...
 
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Not all W220's had Soft Close, have you ever had yours working ? (In other words you know for a fact that it is actually fitted) ...................

I have a Customer with a pretty basic W220 and that has soft Closing Boot Lid, but not Doors, I checked recently when replacing 2 Window Regulators, and indeed it did not have the Soft Close Actuators on the Door Locks ;)

Car in question was a UK Facelift S280 V6 Petrol.
 

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Star will be able to read any faults in the PSE pump and or system so best try to get it a full read out, clear and re-read again to see what circuit(s) are logging errors. Or indeed if it does not have this door soft close feature without taking things apart.
 

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Thanks for reply, sorry for delay in responding, Will strip a door to check if it has the soft close option, as the guy I bought the car from said that they just stopped working, Peter
 

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Thank you for completing your profile.

If you are doing your own maintenance, which is for a variety of reasons the only economical way to own these W220's and later MB Cars and know you are getting a good job done, then tbh, if you don't have SDS you really should consider buying one, no other machine that costs less than the decent SDS Clones, even comes close, and lesser machines will certainly let you down with faults like this ;)

It really is as essential as Spanners Screwdrivers and Sockets etc ;)

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Thank you Dave, I believe the sds is a very expensive piece of kit and for the amount of times I would use it would it really be a justified purchase?
Different Dave here :) but yes, spending the $400-$600 for a used/knock-off SDS system (laptop, MUX, and cables) is absolutely worth it!
Last year I bought one used from someone in this forum and it immediately paid for itself! I had already wasted the money on the little Bluetooth OBDII adapter to connect a mobile device so I could passively read codes. I also wasted money on two increasingly capable code reading and diagnostic tools, like iCarsoft. But when push came to shove, they still couldn't do everything I wanted. Like something as simple as telling the car it no longer has a CD changer. Or like telling the car to no longer automatically raise the rear headrests anytime the rear seatbelts are buckled. (Kind of pointless when 99% of the time it's my little ones who are way too short to benefit from the head resets anyway)
Just a few days ago, on my '06 S500, I thought my gear selector had broken and stopped working, and assumed it was the dreaded broken plastic lockout lever. After playing with it a bit I couldn't start the car anymore nor get the key out. WTF?
But before pulling anything too far apart, I decided to "be smart" and see what SDS had to say about it.
After going through the hassle of pulling out that old laptop, MUX box, and cables, getting it booted all the way up, connecting the cables, going into the Star Diagnostic System, and finally drilling down to the transmission area...18 minutes later... It said the gear selector was in one gear, but the transmission itself was in another. Huh? That didn't make any sense! Especially since I "just" backed the car up a few feet, pulled forward again, put it in park, and turned the engine off.
Within SDS moving the gear selector DID register as moving between P, R, N, & D, but the transmission still remained in the same gear. Which totally changed my guestimate of what the problem was.
So then I looked at the shift rod linkage underneath the car. It had simply fallen off - because the rubber bushing was completely gone!
I stuck the rod back onto the selector box link and voila - things worked again! I couldn't pull the key out because the rod had fallen off right before it got into park.
That's the kind of reason why you want an SDS system.
The next day I picked up two shift rod linkage bushings for $6.50 and popped them into the rod ends. Not only did that solve my primary issue, but also the occasional issue of the dash displaying the message "Move selector into park" after I had already done so, shut off the engine, and was exiting the vehicle.
Without the SDS I would have assumed it was the plastic lockout lever and gone ahead with ordering that part and just left the car as undrivable for the few days. Instead I was back up a running a few minutes after using it.

A few more examples (for anyone interested in more reading):
When I had the rear interior pulled out for a couple of weeks, I also had the third brake light removed. Every time I pressed the brake pedal one of the rear seatbelt retractors would click very loudly. It turns out the computer just needed to be told the third brake light was no longer installed. Problem solved.

There is a leak in the front seat bolsters that I've yet to fix, and won't until I completely redo the leather in front. I was able to use SDS to turn off that system so it no longer runs the PSE pump every time I turn on the ignition. Thus saving my PSE pump from unnecessary wear!

When I change my oil and air filters, I use SDS to tell the vehicle the service has been done, which resets the counter within the dash.

My tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) began misbehaving. I get sick and tired of having to push the damned button on the dash everytime the car wants to nag me about it. I used SDS to "remove" that system from the car, until I got around to fixing it. Then I used SDS to turn the feature back on.

I've only had the SDS for a year, but I can go on and on about how much you'll wish you'd bought it sooner!

Okay...whew... I'm done with my pontificating for the day.
Hope that helps!
 

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Hi different Dave, lol, thanks for your persuasive reply, I will start searching for a sds kit, (anyone recommend anywhere?) I am one of the lucky ones in that I am very busy working long hours and don't get as much time to spend on my limo as I would like and the great British weather doesn't help either and without a garage it's little and as often as I can, bring on retirement! Also the plastic drivers seat undertray and surround with lumbar and pulse switches are as rare as rocking horse poo, in an unbroken state, I've given up trying to get one, I will keep you posted on stripping a door out in my quest for the soft close set up, thanks again, Peter
 

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There are a gazillion posts on the forum about what and where and how to buy SDS ......................

To clarify current situation, you need C4 SD Connect Mux and Leads, a HDD or SSD with 2016 up s/w and a Laptop with a LAN Port, 2Ghz up Processor, and max out the RAM, don't need Serial Port for a C4 SD Connect ;)

If you also want to work on older tech MB cars get 32 bit Windows s/w and make sure the SDS s/w has working HHT Win Emulator on it ;)

HTH
 

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Is SDS worth it?

Well...I stopped counting when the cost savings hit about US $70,000 for our cars.... :)

Both Daves are right.
 
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