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Hi everyone,
Brand new to the forum and I picked up my dream car by chance.
1989, 560 SEC.
Lots of miles(235K) but I don't think that matters much, it was driven almost daily.
I'm no expert as you can read so don't beat me up here with my thoughts!
I've changed a number of sensors to get the idle down to the proper RPM.
It idles incredibly smooth.
I changed the cam oiling plastic things under the valve covers as a video on mercedes source
instructed (Clearly I don't know the proper name for them!).
Of course I changed the valve cover gaskets/o-rings during the process.
Most vacuum lines changed when I had time.
Oil/Tranny oil, performed by a pro/friend German Mechanic in Los Angeles near me who is a good pal.
Should I do anything my buddy might not know about???
I want a highway locomotive for driving long distances to some friends homes that are 150 Miles and
500 Miles away from me.
Where do I get the door/window/trim seals?
Oh, all of the windows work perfectly.
FYI, I had no idea that 238 HP would ever be able to pull a heavy automobile as this does!
The torque is awesome for a tank like this thing is.
Love it, Love it, Love it.
I don't think it's just 238 HP, it feels like so much more.
I already put in my will and I'm 49 years old so he wouldn't get sold off.

The question;
Tires.
It has the correct rims but they are chromed.
Factory spec. is 205/65/15
I would like a bit more width but nothing obnoxious.
Any recommendations for sizes?
Brands of tires?
It's in desperate need of tires!
I want properly rated tires(149 MPH).
Brakes will be done next week, including front/rear rotors and parking brake.
I don't have a million dollar budget for it but I want it done correctly.
I sold my boat(small runabout) to make room for this big boy!
I'm not extremely concerned with keeping it 100%, correct and orig.
It had blue tint that I removed.
It's exterior is dark blue with grey/gray(I can never figure it out) interior and everything is original, paint/body/interior wise.
I have $10K into it so far but that's what I signed up for, so it's not a complaint at all!
I would expect $5-$10K more but hopefully I won't need to go to $10K.
Man O Man these are the BEST automobiles ever!
It's a TANK!
Moves very well.
Softest/smoothest ride on earth and I've owned two 1964 Cadillac's which "ride like a Cadillac".
This exceeds expectations by far.
So quiet underway!
I'm going to take it on a 500 mile run as soon as I'm happy with everything being nice and "tight".
So, tires???
I'm open for suggestions.
Thanks!
Pete.

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Welcome!

Tires for 15" wheels are becoming scarce and there's hardly any selection. Last time I checked there were no Michelins available for our cars (as an example).

You may want to consider upgrading to 16" wheels and have a much better tire selection to chose from. One of the forum members, Roland500, sells several 16" wheels for the W126, including AMG Penta and OEM reproductions.
 

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Thanks for the tip!
Do you know if these are made by any "other than" Mercedes MFG?
I bought a previously owned set with almost new tires and the offset was way "off".
I like this style.
I'll keep the original ones or maybe just sell them.
I'm not going to sell the car, I'll pass it to a relative so I'm not concerned with "100% original".
It's not going to Pebble beach anytime soon!
Thanks for your help,
(I'm simply not a fan of the stock wheels but want MBZ wheels not ghetto wheels!).
Your thoughts?
I don't like my buddies S55 wheels either which are AMG as I'm sure you are aware.
Not into them for this tank!
Let me know what you think!
Pete.
 

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Right now I have 16 inch BBS RA's on my 500 SEC and they are a tad heavy, but I love how they look. One day I might downsize to 15 inch BBS for more rubber and a smoother ride.

I had w140 16's on my 560SEC and it was butter smooth. REALLY smooth. Just amazing, even well above 100 mph.

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I NEED THOSE WHEELS!!!
Do you know the name/style of them.
I bought a set from a local guy and the offset was wrong and refuse to use spacers.
I sold them.
So they are
w140 16's
 

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They were on the car when I purchased it. I am sure someone here can likely ID which ones they were. I know the ET was 11 so it was the perfect stance.
 

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Great!
What tire size do they have mounted on them?
Stock on the 15" rim is
215/65/15
They don't do it for me and I need new tires asap so I might as well get
better looking wheels at the same time.
Mine look far to narrow.
Thanks again!
Pete.
 

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Thanks!
I'll figure it out tomorrow and try to order some asap.
I had been looking at a "tire size calculator" to figure out what to do the last few days.
I really want better looking wheels but with a proper setup.
I appreciate the help.
Oh, my Swedish (Now Ex-Girlfriend) washing the big boy as I call my 560.
She wouldn't even let me help wash it or rinse it when I picked it up!
No kidding!
560's are awesome.
My buddy has a 1987 560 SEL and he drives it to his home 150 miles from my area every week
and probably averages 100 MPH on the open road.
Very little traffic if any.
It's beat up but runs like a champ.
These cars are the best.
They feel like a gun safe, on it's side, with wheels and an engine.
Have a great night!
Thanks again!
Pete.
 

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Just a FYI. I would hate to find out that you took a 500 mile trip in a car with that much mileage with out knowing if your engine was do for a timing chain service. Hmmmmm
 

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Yup. Someone needs to go in there and at least look at the guide. If it's dark, time to do that job. Otherwise... potential hand grenade.
 

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Hey Bob,
I'm Pete!
New to BenzWorld and picked up a 89' 560 with a lot of miles on the clock(235k).
Runs perfect after changing sensors, etc.
Getting new brakes by Monday as well as some other minor things.
I LOVE THIS CAR!
I've owned a slew of cars over my lifetime(I'm 49).
Although only 1 German car(2002 Porsche Turbo) I picked up from my buddies girlfriend(Yes she bought it).
I had the GIAC package installed so it was the same HP and TQ as a Porsche Ruf 560TT that year and yes
it sold me on German engineering for life.
Super fast but not my type of vehicle and I don't like to shift so much.
So back to now.
I have the stock wheels on my 560 and they are chrome. 15" and although original, the do not have
curb appeal in my opinion.
One has the chrome flaking off and 2 others have curb grind marks so I don't want to go through the hassle of having them re-chromed/fixed.
That and I don't like chrome wheels.
I like the idea of 16's and the photo you posted with those "Penta replicas" look awesome!
What tire size do you recommend?
Is your car lowered?
It looks like it's sitting perfect.
Talk to me Bob!
I'm doing this next week.
I'll buy them tomorrow if a deal looks good.
I'm in CA so there are 1M wheel resources here.
Thanks!
Pete.
 

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She got expelled for breaking California water-use regulations.
Ok,
That's funny.
No she was and is great but I live in Santa Monica CA and she lives in Stockholm Sweden.
Met her a year ago by chance.
Not realistic and I think she thought I was cheating on her which I was not.
I'm not a fan of being accused of something I didn't do.
Swedes are AWESOME in every way, shape and form.
Couldn't say more good things about her.
Running my biz remotely with +9 hrs. living in Sweden wouldn't work, I've tried it from Prague
which is also +9 hrs. and it's not reasonable.
She cant leave her biz which is a very specialized business within the art areana.
So...
I have to wash it myself now!
Dang!
 

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Just a FYI. I would hate to find out that you took a 500 mile trip in a car with that much mileage with out knowing if your engine was do for a timing chain service. Hmmmmm
I've had the valve covers off to feel and check the play in the chain and it's correct.
I'll have my buddies shop do the chain guide change this year.
I understand that's the 560's potential issue.
I don't "beat on it" but I know that might not be an issue, just it's age.
We shall see.
If it "goes" I'll call an Uber for a $500 ride.
 

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Yup. Someone needs to go in there and at least look at the guide. If it's dark, time to do that job. Otherwise... potential hand grenade.
The guides up top were very light yellowish color.
I'll just get it done.
No sense in trashing a great automobile for a couple thousand in work/parts.
Thanks,
Pete.
 

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There are plenty of current tires available for 15" w126 wheels. 2 versions of Michelins along with others. 205/65/15. Check out Discount tire or Tire Rack. I bought a set just a couple months ago. Price is still reasonable, about $500 for a set of 4.
 
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