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I have a 1990 300e. Recently i needed to replace the tires on all four factory MB rims tire size 195/65/15. I have been given brand new 195/60/15 x 4 tires which i have been told will fit current stock rims.

Is this correct and advisable ?

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Hi.

Yes, they fit your rims. But the outer diameter will be wrong.

Your speedometer and mileage will be incorrect.


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Hi

I am using 205/60/15 which I think should be similar to 195/65/15. It drive better than stock tires (I think). I tried using 205/65/15 but the front tires rub the fenders when I drove fast over big humps/road depressions.
 

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215 55VR 15 is the largest tire you can fit on that rim. 205 60VR 15 is advisable for an upgrade.
 

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Hi,

I ride 205/65R15 (Hankook Ventus H405) on the stock W126 wheels. Like Geir said, 205/60 would be too small (in diameter), thus giving you wrong speed readings and less gas mileage (albeit seemingly improved acceleration, but don't let that fool you).
195/65R15 is the correct factory size, and the tires I use are some 13mm larger in diameter, which makes my car ride much more comfortably and save fuel on long-distance trips. It may be argued that the physically higher sidewalls may hamper cornering ability, but (with my tires at least) that argument is negated by the wider tread and the fact that my tires are V-rated (240km/h), making for stiffer sidewalls.
Previously, I had 215/60R15 tires (Falken Ziex ZE-512), which just about cleared the front struts, and I got even better cornering ability, but tangibly less of an "on-center" feel at the steering wheel (and the car was rather thumpy due to the physically shorter sidewalls - they are the same physical hight as 195/65). I removed them because that particular set of tires was defective, and I couldn't find V-rated replacements in that size in the Saudi market at that time.

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RE: W124 300E TIRE SIZE ??? AND PINSTRIPES

Hi All

Thanks for all your help with this matter, installed the new tire's on the back yesterday and my car's rear end is up in the air !!! even though the rear was more upright with the 195/65/15 this has deffinately made it worse with the 185/60/15, i think the only answer would be to go back to 195/65/15 stock or mayby get the car lowered, im not to sure on this part as i really like the original look of my benz and want to get it as original as possible. Any Sudgestions ?

Also the colar of my car is blue/black matalic with the dark grey trim at the bottom ( will post pics asap ) But with most cars of this year i have the good old 80's style pinestripes running down each side ! great back in the day but not for me, would like to remove them but am very worried that it will leave a line mark on the paintwork, Has anyone performed removal of these and would/could advise ?

Once again thank you for your comments

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RE: W124 300E TIRE SIZE ??? AND PINSTRIPES

185/60R15 are definitely aint gonna cut it on a Benz! Try 205/65R15 or 215/60R15, and make sure they are V-rated.
Are you talking about adhesive "ornamental" strips? Better not mess with them. They probably have been there for a long time and are cooked on by now. Any attempt to peel them off will probably wreak havoc on the paintwork. Try soaking a piece of cotton with kerosene and wiping them once every day. They might eventually soften up and peel off more easily.

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Sorry that was a typo error, ment 195/60/15 not 185. Think im just gunna go back to basics and get new set of 195/65/15- could anyone recomend a good brand for all weather comditions ? As for the pinstripes that are running down the sides they came with the car out of production so yes that have been there since birth !!

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leetyler - 3/8/2005 1:51 AM

Sorry that was a typo error, ment 195/60/15 not 185. Think im just gunna go back to basics and get new set of 195/65/15- could anyone recomend a good brand for all weather comditions ?
Might as well go cheap.
Personally I'm riding on Hankook Ventus H405 (called Black Bird in this market) and they are just amazing: The wet traction, the responciveness, the smoothness (and they make this funny faint squeeling sound while cornering at moderate speeds, which I like [:D])
I got all four tires (205/65R15 94V, treadwear 360) from the dealer, mounted, balanced, with new valves, for the price of one and a half Pirelli tires, and the Pirellis are nowhere near as good or long-lasting. The dealer wanted 560 Saudi riyals for a single Pirelli P6000 tire (treadwear 180). I got all four Hankooks for 800 [:)]

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Six_wheeler,
I bought cheap tires once for my Saab, Futura something or other, for $50 each..they wore like iron (ie. not at all) but the grip was horrible. Squealed in parking lots, everything. Didn't feel safe on them at all.

Now that I got the Benz, I went with Michelin Energy tires, same dimensions, for about $105 each. The difference between the old Mercedes tires and the Michelins was huge! The car behaves much better now. 100+ mph in long sweeping curves on the freeway is no longer an issue [:D][:D]

My next set will probably be Bridgestone Turanza LS-Z..those are pretty awesome, too.
 

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That's great, but take a look at the Hankooks (I ain't associated with them in any way [:D]) You might find that you can get the same performance as the Michelins (if not better) and much longer tire life for half the price. I drove all the way up to Jordan on my Hankooks (a 4,000km round trip) and most of the way I was doing curves at 170km/h and the car stuck like glue. Just my two halalas (0.02 of a Saudi riyal) of experience [8)]

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I'm interested in replacing my 205/60-15s with 205/65-15s like you have. Have you noticed any rubbing like rafmar says he has on his post?

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Charles Taylor
 
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