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my wife and i both drive 300d's. '81 and '84. A friend of a friend is selling his one owner 190e 2.6, and i'm considerng buying it. Near perfect shape, 185,000 miles, $2,000.
I guess i'm asking if anybody out there did the same, and regrets it. Either you just miss the older car in general, or maybe something more specific. I'm just looking for something a little more "modern" (ha ha) for my wife.
 

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What if anything you will miss:

The milage the 300 gets. (My 87 2.6 gets 23 MPG overall, using 93 Octane - calculated (miles/gallons at each tank)

The size the 300 has

IMO the "better" choice in interior materials. That's not to say the 201 is bad - it's really not - not for an entry level Benz.. If you buddy's has leather +1, Power Seats +2.

Unlike cars of this era, you are lucky enough to get an original owner and can ask what's done and not and where..

If it's pre 90 I'd say the price is a tad high to right on, post is a great price (based on your "excellent" rating)

HTH.
 

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good to hear from an owner of the specific year/engine. I actually like the look of the pre-body cladding cars, so am glad of the year with regard to that. We'll be passing on th non-turbo 300d, which gets 23mpg overall, so it might be an improvement. i'll search this, but do most of you guys use high octane? btw, he's put a ton of money in the car in recent years. Actually had all of the hvac pods replaced at one time. that's the kind of guy he is.
 

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Did you just said :"I'm just looking for something a little more "modern" (ha ha) for my wife"
You must be kidding ? the MB 2010 model year was an obsolete already........ but go for it.
 

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Regret

I'm restoring my 190-e 2.3-16v 1986, and I'm enjoying every penny
invested in it. So, get it. It's a one owner car.
You won't regret it. My wife didn't wanted it until she saw it with new paint
and the new rims. Now she says it's her car, so I'm doomed.


H M Armaiz
 

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I'm restoring my 190-e 2.3-16v 1986, and I'm enjoying every penny
invested in it. So, get it. It's a one owner car.
You won't regret it. My wife didn't wanted it until she saw it with new paint
and the new rims. Now she says it's her car, so I'm doomed.


H M Armaiz
WHO IS NOT POSTING THEIR CAR PICTURES...............:bash::bash::bash:
 

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Waiting for my mech. to finish with the valves. THEN I'll post pictures. I hpoe to have it
by the end of the week.

H M Armaiz
 

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my wife and i both drive 300d's. '81 and '84. A friend of a friend is selling his one owner 190e 2.6, and i'm considerng buying it. Near perfect shape, 185,000 miles, $2,000.
I guess i'm asking if anybody out there did the same, and regrets it. Either you just miss the older car in general, or maybe something more specific. I'm just looking for something a little more "modern" (ha ha) for my wife.
Do you plan to sell the W123's and get the W201?

Why not have both?

Or just sell one of the W123's and keep the better one.

The 190E is much smaller inside and outside, you'll find the rear legroom cramped compared to the W123 especially if you're tall.

M103 is a finicky engine when it works it's wonderful but if it throws a fit it's a headache to fix. But it's a strong engine, silky smooth power delivery. You'll find your MPG drop and your speed and acceleration rise. :D

If it's the older type 190E w/ body cladding check that the electric components are good. Look up threads about the OVP, fuel pump relay, EHA valve, and stalling. The older type design I think carried over until 1990 or 1991 then there was a change around that time with more refined features in the later cars.

For $2000 and a one owner car, with that mileage check that the AC works, the head gasket has either been replaced or is NOT leaking, and look for service records.

This is speaking from a W123 and W201 owner. My sister and uncle also both have 190E's, I think they're just right in terms of modern amenities today. This is also perfect for your wife if she finds the W123 too big to handle.
 

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mbeige-good to see you in this new and strange place! No, don't want to sell either. Don't know which one to sell. Sick of the anemic performance from my '81, but it's Marine Blue!!! It's the coolest merc in savannah. The '84 turbo is wonderful, with maroon interior, classic white. Guess i'll sell the non-turbo.
It's not the size- just that the w123's are a little "coarse". Handling, lateral support in seats (or lack thereof), just older in general. She was driving a 92 300te which i sold recently; that's why she's in one of my cars. Think i'm going to do it tomorrow. I'll report back. Didn't mention taht i had a '87 190d 2.5, and loved it.

btw- thanks for the hollow bolt info. My car is not marking its spot for the first time in months. i can park in people's driveways now!
 

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mbeige-good to see you in this new and strange place! No, don't want to sell either. Don't know which one to sell. Sick of the anemic performance from my '81, but it's Marine Blue!!! It's the coolest merc in savannah. The '84 turbo is wonderful, with maroon interior, classic white. Guess i'll sell the non-turbo.
It's not the size- just that the w123's are a little "coarse". Handling, lateral support in seats (or lack thereof), just older in general. She was driving a 92 300te which i sold recently; that's why she's in one of my cars. Think i'm going to do it tomorrow. I'll report back. Didn't mention taht i had a '87 190d 2.5, and loved it.

btw- thanks for the hollow bolt info. My car is not marking its spot for the first time in months. i can park in people's driveways now!
It's great to be here, don't be a stranger. :)

The W123 is very classic - which means it's crude compared to cars available today. It was designed in the early 70's so you're looking at probably 30-40 year old technology. The 190E has MUCH better sideways handling than the 300D. Seats in the 190E are also a huge improvement over those in the W123 but only for sideways handling. Long journeys - my wife prefers the W123 if she's riding alongside me in the passenger seat. But she loves the 190E when she's driving.

The W124 you recently sold is a more modern W123 in all respects - but trades metal and chrome for plastics and lighter materials. Better ergonomics and more quiet on the highway as well.

I don't recall the hollow bolt info?
 

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It's great to be here, don't be a stranger. :)

I don't recall the hollow bolt info?
Whoops... it was Rmac58, not you. I was griping about the hollow bolt seals, and he posted a photo of what they were supposed to look like. I'll probably bring this car home tomorrow, and feel "good" about it. will report back. thx.
 

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Buy a w201. You'll love it. I'm addicted to mine and it loves me back. I truly believe my car loves me. It's been so good to me.

I think you'll be happy. I'd like to have another Merc a different style, but around the same time frame/age.
 
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