[ScottinSoCal]

For reasons I don't want to go into - OK, I'm on a diet - I'm hanging out at a place with a lot of other people on the same diet. Some of them are following "homeopathic" versions of the diet protocol.

I had no idea what homeopathic meant. I'd always assumed it was just an all-natural version of some kind of rational medicine. But no, these people are happy to explain all about it. See, it has to do with quantum physics and "water memory" and "the energy of chemicals". Not the actual chemical itself, just some kind of trace memory water holds after it came in contact with the chemical, maybe in a past life.

It's absolute, unadulterated, pure horse shit.

They're posting articles twisting actual science beyond all recognition, in defense of this. Articles about atomic bonds in deuterium, and how that supposedly proves that water can retain a memory of a chemical it came into contact with. I have never heard anything like it in my life. And these are adults. It's gotten worse the last month or so, and I just read an article that made me come unglued. It was all about how you can eliminate allergies (like peanut allergies in children) by having somebody glide magnetized ball bearings over your body, while sending you energy in the form of their thoughts. Some demented parent is going to try this with their severely allergic child and wind up with a dead kid on their hands.

How in the world can supposedly intelligent adults swallow this crap?

 

[nobby]

Hey, Scott, Nobette thinks I'm handsome.

I rest my case.

 

[petesmga]

When I had my cancer I met a few people who were trying "homeopathic" cures. I feel this was due to the fear of traditional treatment, plus people by nature are afraid of any kind of change. Just do what's good for you and turn a deft ear to those trying to sway you. As long as you can fit behind the wheel, your OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[smack]

There is some element of truth in some of that, but the fanatics go overboard. I can only speak to part of it, which is that bio-feedback technology supports the concept of electrical energy from your body. Long story short, I have been plugged in to one (six sensors on my head and body) and the read-outs were spot on regarding my overall condition and issues, which were also diagnosed by a traditional doctor.

We have also come to depend on our acupuncturist (which we have to go to Canada to see) for most of our medical care. My orthopod, one of the most noted in the midwest, who treated my shattered leg six years ago was absolutely dumbstruck at how fast my leg healed. He used my case in many seminars to demonstrate a successful solution for a very complex injury. I never told him that I was concurrently going to our acupuncturist, which I accredit for my rapid recovery.

Part of what we face in the US is that non-traditional medicine is throttled by the pharmaceutical companies who don't want people to know there are simple natural cures for the things they make drugs for. Interestingly, a number of doctors are breaking away and focusing on more homeopathic cures for things. Again, I speak first hand of experience with two different highly respected doctors in the area who have abandoned many drug therapies for natural solutions...very successfully. And I would add to that the success of a friend who has overcome a very serious form of cancer for over ten years now following homeopathic treatment after his initial surgery.

But, these successful homeopathic doctors use moderation and confirm results through traditional medicine diagnostics. The dingbats you are encountering are over the line, though. I absolutely believe there are levels of science regarding our bodies that are still unfolding.

 

[Skylaw]

Scott, I couldn't agree with you more. Disregard the fools.

Many homeopathic treatments may work; others are quackery. In your case someone has made giant and unsupported leaps in physics by reading too many Wikipedia articles on Deuterium.

 

[rowdie]

Delirium and fanaticism. Not a good mix.

 

[petesmga]

Oh Lord, protect me from your followers.

 

[DrJfrmLA]

Did you look at where you live? What did you expect?

You're obviously an intelligent and discerning gentleman; look at the company you keep here. You shoulda known betta.

I'm a member of PETA--People Eating Tasty Animals. Wanna join?

Cheers, Scott. You'll be okay.

 

[rowdie]

I am not a doctor but was married to one. She grew up poor in Oklahoma. As a child they had chicken houses and cattle. Helped her quite a bit in her practice. She knew what chicken shit was and could immediately identify BULLSHIT!

 

[petesmga]

Give that man a cigar!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jplinville]

I am not a doctor but was married to one. She grew up poor in Oklahoma. As a child they had chicken houses and cattle. Helped her quite a bit in her practice. She knew what chicken shit was and could immediately identify BULLSHIT!

:thumbsup:

 

[ScottinSoCal]

Biofeedback? I've played with a machine, and I can see something to that. If nothing else, it can teach you to relax and not stress so much, and that's always a good thing.

Acupuncture? I'm skeptical, but without evidence one way or the other, I'll say go with what you choose to do.

I could even get behind the idea of "natural" medicine. Much of what we use as medicine came from nature - aspirin came from willow trees, or something like that.

I'm also not 100% behind traditional medicine. My doctor wants me to go on an antistatin for high cholesterol, and I refuse. The only study that shows a reduction in heart disease from antistatins (not a reduction in cholesterol, they all do that, but an actual reduction in heart disease - the reason you're taking antistatins) only shows a 20% to 25% reduction. And a possible side effect of all of them is liver failure and death. I like my liver. It does good things for me. I'll keep it the way it is, thank you very much.

But quantum physics? Zero point energy? Water memory? Healing thoughts? That's just bullshit. And this allergy thing is just dangerous. I carry an epi-pen for allergies. So do a lot of other people. One day, one of those people is going to get stung, or eat something, or come in contact with something, and they're going to die. But I guess that'll just be evolution in action.

 

[abiby]

I am not a doctor but was married to one. She grew up poor in Oklahoma. As a child they had chicken houses and cattle. Helped her quite a bit in her practice. She knew what chicken shit was and could immediately identify BULLSHIT!

She must have had at least one blind spot.

 

[rowdie]

Very well thought out Scott. Follow the logic and your instincts (which some would argue we don't have anymore).
The allergie voodoo is Darwin in action.

Happy trails Scott.

 

[petesmga]

Well it seems like you have chilled a little, so a bit of venting worked.
Your a pretty fart smeller!

 

[Werner W]

I'm a member of PETA--People Eating Tasty Animals. Wanna join?

I already go to their church services. Here is a picture of me dropping an offering into the collection pot.

 

[petesmga]

Must be a lot warmer 50 miles away.

 

[Werner W]

The picture is a couple of years old. Summer vacation in Roque Bluffs Maine.

 

[3547fl]

The only thing I can add is that 20 years ago I apparently ripped my right rotor cuff and never really knew how bad I hurt it. (Maybe too young to realize it)

Last year it really flared up and just about crippled me. Could not sleep (Got very good sleeping in a corner standing up) could not sit to eat etc… Went to a couple of very good Orthopedic doctors one which handles all the work for the Orlando Magic. MRI, etc… nothing can be done for it. No operation, damaged beyond repair. Gave me a cortisone shot and told me to take Advil.

As a last resort I went to a very nice Chinese lady who was trained in China for Acupuncture and after 12 visits my shoulder was at 98%. She would put about 14 needles in my arm and shoulder, hook it up to an adjustable electric machine which would shoot very small about of current into the needles for 20 min each visit. Then she would apply an herb on the end of the needle and light it, which would smolder and transfer the heat down the needle.

When you think about all she was doing was stimulating blood flow thought the joint which lets it heal the inflammation it had. All said and done western medicine wrote it off and this procedure got me though it.

Believe me I would have been the last person to think this would have helped.

 

[petesmga]

I'm sure thats why its been around longer than modern medicine.