I dissected one of the valet / mickey mouse keys to look for the transponder.
couple of things :
1. its really tough to cut the plastic open
2. there is rectangular marking which indicates the location (and side of the key) of the transponder
3; it might be possible to stick a small angled pick into the "rectangular marking" and pull the chip out
hope this helps someone that wants to remove the transponder chip and insert into another remote fob.
no... but i did go through 4 dremel cutting discs ... only because i wanted to preserve the key plastic so i could illustrate where the chip was for others...
i do think it might be easier and possible to unwedge the chip out after making some strategic cuts (on the underside of where the chip and the slot location are)
ps: the transponder chip seems to be well protected in its own plastic. so i would not worry too much about using some brute force to remove it.
Alas, my last original electronic key for the 99 fell apart the other day and refused to be resuscitated. So now I am having to deal with the machine-gun locks and quite a few of the mickey mouse keys and non-operative fobs with good keys. Quite a collection actually !!
I must say over the years the two original fobs held their own as long as the batteries were changed regularly. It was a GREAT feature back in the day and it's unfortunate that Mercedes has no answer for W163 owners.
My garage queen is the 2003ML55 with ONE working fob and a couple of the MM variety. I will lock that key up for safe keeping and use the MM for driving it from now on.
The machine gun locks are driving me crazy!! Isn't there a way to disable the automatic locking on the doors by removing fuses/relays/etc ??
I had of course removed that fuse before but the issue was still happening. This morning, I removed it and then started the ML and drove for a few miles and it fixed the machine gun locks ! It was just so annoying for it to happen all the time, particularly when you came to a stop and then accelerated....
Now all is quiet, and I will just have to get in the habit of manually locking all doors and the rear hatch. Little bit of a learning curve, but a very workable solution !!
it’s cheap to get blank keys and easy to cut them (that’s a non issue). i doubt the mickey mouse key would fit nicely into the flip key of the remote (unless ‘99 are different)
if you do the transplant and get new buttons... please post here for others to see
As far as I can tell, the blade is the same until at least someplace up inside the plastic of the Mickey key or the metal hinge of the fob. If it’s easy enough to reuse the blade of the valet key, might as well do it.
98s and 99s had the less adaptable “eight keys and you’re done” setup, but it’s also dumb enough that it doesn’t seem to have some of the issues that I’ve read about attempting to repurpose used fobs using valet rfids on later 163s. I guess we’ll see.
Looking for some help, i am needing some key work on both of our M Classes. 1st one is on our 1999 ML320, Back years ago after taking it to the car wash the kid didn't realize he had to take his foot off the brake pedal to get the key out and ended up bending the key blade, So we started using...
THIS KEY SHELL GENERALLY FITS 1998-2005 ML- CLASS AND SLK Class. COMPLETE KEY FOB SHELL KIT AND BLADE. with 3 buttons and Similar Key Blade (thin Blade A). from original remote and place them to our key shell, then it is OK!
Doing some experimenting with the two 99 fobs that I recently acquired. The first one I cracked open was very crusty inside, but I will try to clean the board at some point to remove the corrosion. It does not look like any leads are broken, so it may be salvageable. The second one has a nice clean board. The transponder chip doesn't interface with the electronics in any direct way, it just sits against the board in the corner by the key blade hinge, hence the angled spot on the housing. At least for the 98/99 models, I see no reason why the transponder from a valet key would not work just fine transplanted into another fob, after the synchronization procedure is performed.
The 98/99 security system can only cope with a lifetime maximum of eight keys. Does anyone know if there is a limit on the number of fobs that can be synched with it simultaneously?
... I see no reason why the transponder from a valet key would not work just fine transplanted into another fob, after the synchronization procedure is performed....
If your main key starts and runs the car, the only solution is to buy a new valet key, from your MB dealer.
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