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Lower control arm. If anyone contemplating saving a couple bucks.... :(

Fender all messed up too. Thankfully failed at low speed.

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Yes, as Jayare stated, its good that any damage was limited to the car. So that brings us to the next most important point of all this. Shouldn't this situation be brought to the attention of the URO sales guy who was pushing so hard against our dislike for URO parts? How can this be done? Anyone recall his contact info?
 

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No surprise. Good thing no one was hurt.
 

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Moving it out of the middle of road in front of house was quite a chore. Had to spin it 180° with my big 3 ton jack balanced under crossmember. Wasn’t fun whatsoever.
 

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...Shouldn't this situation be brought to the attention of the URO sales guy who was pushing so hard against our dislike for URO parts? How can this be done? Anyone recall his contact info?
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I doubt that would do any good. What I'd rather see is the government come down hard on them as part of a consumer protection act. In other words, have the Feds tell URO and other like minded companies "get your sh!t together or we're going to put you out of business permanently"
 

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If Mercedes wasn't stopped from selling cars with self destructing wiring harnesses or forced to fix them by any government as far as I know, there probably won't be any government interested in stopping a company from providing cheap alternative parts. Its purely "buyer beware" . My interest in tracking down the URO Sales people was to justify why most of us don't recommend them nor use them. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see them stopped just as much as you, but I just feel it isn't possible.

I actually think a sticky with part failure information in it would be worthwhile to the members. It shouldn't just focus on URO; it should apply to all suppliers URO's preponderance of poor parts will ensure they get represented appropriately.
 

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A failed harness never caused bodily harm. At worst, the car stalled out and blew a few expensive electronic modules.

When the ball joint or flex discs or driveshaft support bearing lets go it can cause some heavy duty bodily injury.

Just imagine this happening at 70mph. 'nuf said

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Wife bought the part online on her own and figured they couldn’t possibly screw up such a basic component, so installed it.

Have had great results with weather seals from URO on my vintage BMW’s, as they’re the only ones offering them. Thought maybe they did in fact get their act together. Lesson learned.
 

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URO = Untrustworthy Repop Object. I don't trust their recycled Chinese rubber dogsh!t as far as I can throw it.
 

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Wife bought the part online on her own and figured they couldn’t possibly screw up such a basic component, so installed it.

Have had great results with weather seals from URO on my vintage BMW’s, as they’re the only ones offering them. Thought maybe they did in fact get their act together. Lesson learned.

Ive got one of their windshield seals in my 240D and have had it for the past 10 years and its still holding up perfectly. I do keep the car in the garage and under a cover so YMMV.

That being said I wouldn't use one of their suspension parts on any of my cars...
 

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URO parts are like many things in life - there are times when the cheap spread is acceptable and there are times when it isn't.
 

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Wasn't there an old thread on this forum with impressive photos of failed URO flex discs and other items? Some of the failures were within months.

For weatherstrips or antenna masts which are NLA from every other source, I understand buying URO. But when there's an OEM alternative for anything safety-related, don't make a purchase decision based on price. Please.

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Can we say "I told you so"? Or is it too soon?

We should start a pool to see how long this post remains up.
 

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For parts other than engine, drive train, suspension etc...I see no problem subbing in aftermarket parts that fit, work and endure. But the critical stuff, no way.....it's your life and your wallet however.

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Ive got one of their windshield seals in my 240D and have had it for the past 10 years and its still holding up perfectly. I do keep the car in the garage and under a cover so YMMV.
This is why. I'm betting if you exposed that seal to sunlight for a year it would rapidly decompose. It's so, so easy to make cheap rubber parts by altering the composition of the components. Where it shows up is in things like UV resistance.
 

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It's become a real problem with CV boot kits of dubious origin/quality. And it will only get worse from here out.

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Ive got one of their windshield seals in my 240D and have had it for the past 10 years and its still holding up perfectly. I do keep the car in the garage and under a cover so YMMV.
This is why. I'm betting if you exposed that seal to sunlight for a year it would rapidly decompose. It's so, so easy to make cheap rubber parts by altering the composition of the components. Where it shows is in things exposed to sunlight.

I have searched the internets for years trying to find the article that Jim Patterson of House of Ghia wrote about the composition of rubber parts, in this case a windshield seal, and how even the slightest alterations to the ratio of virgin rubber to carbon (lampblack) would do little to affect the physical appearance of a seal, but have significant effects on it's longevity. He was sourcing reproduction windshield seals and other parts for Karmann Ghias in China in the late 1990s, and by closely monitoring the manufacturing process to assure high quality was able to make some very good reproduction parts. His knowledge in this area was deep, and he was one of the first people I knew who exposed the practice of making cheap rubber parts that looked good but performed poorly over time.

There's a reason why a part is 25%-35% of the cost of everyone else in the market, and it's not because the supplier is making less profit.
 

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This is why. I'm betting if you exposed that seal to sunlight for a year it would rapidly decompose. It's so, so easy to make cheap rubber parts by altering the composition of the components. Where it shows is in things exposed to sunlight.

I have searched the internets for years trying to find the article that Jim Patterson of House of Ghia wrote about the composition of rubber parts, in this case a windshield seal, and how even the slightest alterations to the ratio of virgin rubber to carbon (lampblack) would do little to affect the physical appearance of a seal, but have significant effects on it's longevity. He was sourcing reproduction windshield seals and other parts for Karmann Ghias in China in the late 1990s, and by closely monitoring the manufacturing process to assure high quality was able to make some very good reproduction parts. His knowledge in this area was deep, and he was one of the first people I knew who exposed the practice of making cheap rubber parts that looked good but performed poorly over time.

There's a reason why a part is 25%-35% of the cost of everyone else in the market, and it's not because the supplier is making less profit.
Gotta be the same thing with plastics and outside exposure. We've all seen plastic parts fail prematurely.

My present car came with a URO dist dirt cover that was so bizarrely warped, I just took it off.

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