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This was always a good thread to look at regarding various Mog's COG, visually, you may get some ideas on what works and what doesn't and the importance of a ROPS or cage.
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Ok, I'll post whatever I can find here if that's ok? These are paper manuals I haven't scanned so apologies if the quality isn't that great (also notice theres a bit of info about the 419 SEE, bonus!!!):
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HELP WANTED

Calm down, not that kind of HELP; not a PAYING work-from-home scheme.

We are trying to come up with data for the 416 base model, equivalent to the data for the 406, from the Nebraska Tractor Test Report. All to look at the stability comparatively, and try to estimate the value of the longer wheelbase (with more rear-ward CM ?).

At a minimum, ACTUAL EMPTY weight on each axle, for the 416, would suffice. That allows for calculation of front to back location of CM, And I would use height of CM from Nebraska test, as I think they would be close (enough).

I have got the tables above, posted by Trev, that have no F/B distribution. A lot of searching, and I found empty axle weights for a 416 cab-chassis. Did an extrapolation to add for the platform/ bed, but that is not rock-solid results.

Biggest question I have, is the 406 truly heavier than the 416? The MB data says so, and the Nebraska test scaled the MB 4/94 at 3850 kg/ 8490#. MB says 406 is 3500 kg/ 7716#. Possibly that difference is simply fuel load?

So, here is the request:

Has anyone had their 416 on a commercial truck scale, with Front, Rear, Total weights listed? And if so, could you share? Most valuable and relevant (to 406 data) would be for 416 standard single cab, and fixed platform/ bed. Other configurations may or may not apply close enough, but still could be useful to look at.

Thanks in advance

Lee
 

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HELP WANTED

Calm down, not that kind of HELP; not a PAYING work-from-home scheme.

We are trying to come up with data for the 416 base model, equivalent to the data for the 406, from the Nebraska Tractor Test Report. All to look at the stability comparatively, and try to estimate the value of the longer wheelbase (with more rear-ward CM ?).

At a minimum, ACTUAL EMPTY weight on each axle, for the 416, would suffice. That allows for calculation of front to back location of CM, And I would use height of CM from Nebraska test, as I think they would be close (enough).

I have got the tables above, posted by Trev, that have no F/B distribution. A lot of searching, and I found empty axle weights for a 416 cab-chassis. Did an extrapolation to add for the platform/ bed, but that is not rock-solid results.

Biggest question I have, is the 406 truly heavier than the 416? The MB data says so, and the Nebraska test scaled the MB 4/94 at 3850 kg/ 8490#. MB says 406 is 3500 kg/ 7716#. Possibly that difference is simply fuel load?

So, here is the request:

Has anyone had their 416 on a commercial truck scale, with Front, Rear, Total weights listed? And if so, could you share? Most valuable and relevant (to 406 data) would be for 416 standard single cab, and fixed platform/ bed. Other configurations may or may not apply close enough, but still could be useful to look at.

Thanks in advance

Lee
 

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Hello,
A few years ago I drove my 416.141 single cab with tipper bed across the scales, but it was fully loaded with tool boxes and tools, recovery gear, F64 and camping gear:
Front 5,720
Rear 4,480
Total 10,200
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