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Evening, does any one on here know wether the front and rear pads are the same on mu u1300l 1987 ? also before i remove the wheels again has anyone got an after market part number for the pads and the dimensions please, i can then order some and do the job in one foul swoop, cheers Carl
 

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They are (should be) the same - but again Unimog - anything goes. There is an old thread with a list of the equivalents - I could not find it, but I know it is there as I contributed to the list.
Update: found it:
 

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For 6 bolt axles on 416/ 419/ 1300, the pads are the same front and rear. if like my truck, you need 4 pads per side for front, and 2 pads per side for rear (12 total pads). Depending on source of info, there is a brass (?) shim plate at the back of each pad for the fronts (?), maybe an anti-rattle. Not near my shop/ truck or manuals, so I cannot check on this.

Obtaining pads, in UK or EU, is pretty simple, lots of sources. Next comments are based on my suspicion that you have not previously done a lot of truck mechanical work. So may be off the mark, apologies in advance. In all auto maintenance and repairs, proper diagnosis is the most fundamental and most critical aspect of any undertaking. In a MOG, that goes double, maybe triple. Diagnosis by replacement until success is usually rather costly. In my view, deciding to order brake pads before doing any looking at he situation is a really poor start. First question is, is there anything particularly wrong or troubling about the braking action ? Remember, this is not a sports car, and it doesn’t stop like one.

There are a number of threads here started by guys who have had serious brake failures, usually dragging and overheating. You should do the search, and acquaint yourself with these issues. I have been guilty in the past in not flushing and refilling the brake fluid (other trucks), and I finally bit the bullet on the Mog and did the full routine, with synthetic fluid, and very glad I did, I might add. Brake fluid adsorbs moisture over time, bad for ferrous components. Replaced the hoses to front hubs and torque tubes while open, and again, glad I did. The hoses have known issues. Pure age is the big culprit.

In your case, I would put up on stands, and check operation as it is now, specifically whether pads retract (stop dragging) when released. Then I would look at pad wear, and measure rotor thickness, to see if they can still be turned (legally, I presume laws are same in the UK?) First and last time I changed pads without turning or replacing the rotors, I barely stayed out of the ditch on the first hard stop, they pulled so badly.

Tying prior comments together, new pads change the travel range of each piston (if old ones are seriously worn), and corrosion in the previously exposed part of the bore seems to be able to affect smooth travel of the pistons after the pads are changed. This is the primary suspect for one of the Forum members BIG problems, and led to a more extensive re-do subsequently. An easy thing to check is condition of the piston dust boots. If torn, you are advised to look further, as there is probably corrosion issues within.

Lastly, when up and wheels off, you should be looking over everything else, portals are a cool but demanding mistress.

Just my thoughts, based on a lot of wrenching over a bunch of years. All FWIW

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While I agree with what Lee said, I'd locate the correct pads and go ahead and buy a complete set anyway... even if your brakes are working very well.

You'll need them sooner or later, and if you wait, then you might pull your wheels off only to find that the pads are getting down there and should be replaced. Then what ? Remount the tires and wait for the pads ? Naw...

They are reasonably priced, so get them on the shelf, then go poking around.
The Soft lines on the axles too... Your truck is over 20 years old, I suspect, so the rubber lines should be replaced.


Because you have a U1300L, I'd suggest you check with TEKSAN in Turkey, and compare their prices. They have gotten good reviews from guys on this forum.
 

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Evening. Thats why i come here loads of great advice. I'll get it up on stands this weekend if weathers good and take my time. I have a new break pipe to fit on the rear, as for the synthetic fluid thats the rd i'm going down. I'll post some pictures of my findings after the weekend. Thanks again Carl
 

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Be careful about changing over to synthetic. Determine whether the new fluid is compatible with the old fluid. DOT5 used to be the goto some years back and is silicon based. However, incompatible with DOT4/3 and the whole system has to be cleansed or renewed with all rubber components replaced. Newer fluids may well be fine - but please make sure it is. Brake failure on a Mog is not something you want :p
 

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morning, thanks for all your input, i changed the fluid in the end for normal brake fluid, as for the brake pads left hand side rear caliper was tight so i did free it off, took the disks off and got a friend to just skin a little bit off then, he only had to take 2 thou off one side he said, got some after market pads from atkinson vos, excellent service i may add, next day delivery on them, road test tomorrow, cheers carl
 

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It is known that the car pads are thicker than the truck pads - mentioned in earlier posts. Also, why it was suggested that leaving the anti-squeel shims out is a work-around. At the end of the day, it depends how comfortable one is in using car vs Mog specific pads.
Just saying.....
 
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