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Just seen the draft EU regs on vehicle and trailer testing.. not law yet..

1. Over 40kph Agri e.g. unimog need an annual vehicle test unless over 30 years old.

2. All trailers will need an annual test.

UK Gov feedback form = http://links.govdelivery.com/track?type=click&enid=ZWFzPTEmbWFpbGluZ2lkPTIwMTIwODEzLjk3MjkxMDEmbWVzc2FnZWlkPU1EQi1QUkQtQlVMLTIwMTIwODEzLjk3MjkxMDEmZGF0YWJhc2VpZD0xMDAxJnNlcmlhbD0xNzExNTc1OSZlbWFpbGlkPWJtdm1hbkByb2NrZXRtYWlsLmNvbSZ1c2VyaWQ9Ym12bWFuQHJvY2tldG1haWwuY29tJmZsPSZleHRyYT1NdWx0aXZhcmlhdGVJZD0mJiY=&&&103&&&http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/UKVOSA/2012/08/13/file_attachments/149135/120809+RWP+feedback+form+V1a.xls

Discussion on forum = An end to 'modified' cars?

Unimogs = "wheeled tractors with a maximum design speed exceeding 40 km/h = vehicle category T5"

"2. This Regulation shall not apply to: – vehicles of historic interest,
– vehicles belonging to armed forces, fire services, civil protection, emergency or rescue services,
– vehicles used by agricultural, horticultural, forestry, farming or fishery undertakings with a maximum design speed not exceeding 40 km/h,
– specialised vehicles transporting circus and funfair equipment with a maximum design speed not exceeding 40 km/h and only operating on the territory of the Member State."

"– Vehicles of category M1 registered as taxis or ambulances, vehicles of categories M2, M3, N2, N3, T5, O3 and O4: one year after the date on which the vehicle was first registered, and thereafter annually."


Historic means over 30 years old with original type engine/gearbox etc.. so I guess I will slide under that (1967 406) but the SBU boys should start thinking about this... if it becomes law.

EU cannot sort the Greeks out but the Germans still have time to try and make us all TUV compliant!
 

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So that only applies to Unimogs and Fastracs classed as Agri in the UK? None of them get an annual test now?
 

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All Agri are mot exempt.

If a agri vehicle is used in an non agri manner, than they need to be taxed as such. ie. If a fast track is used to transport bales for a number of different farmers then it would need to be taxed as an HGV, the driver would need the appropriate license and also be registered correctly.

An interesting little one is the recovery taxation class. This is also MOT exempt and

10 Recovery Vehicle
The term “Recovery Vehicle” means a vehicle weighing more than 3,500kg, which is either constructed or permanently adapted primarily for the purpose of lifting, towing and transporting a disabled vehicle or for any one or more of those purposes.
So, a vehicle which has been constructed or adapted so it can tow? Sounds like a unimog to me ;)
 

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I don't know? Why does it?

This act has pretty much already been thrown out by the british gov. It includes such wonders as no modified vehicles of any type on the road (as in only OEM parts can be fitted), MOT's being a bi-annual test and several other bits of BS. Think it's going to be a case of wait and see what comes.
 

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Do not really want to wait and see what DOT cook up; really should be doing something about it .. if you read the DOT consultation document they seem to be pointing to licensing/testing trailers and banning non approved parts. If Euroland say that is the regs then it depends how many "may" statements there are .. may mean they cannot wriggle and can only drag feet.

Why they want to mess with it .. well guess there are parts of Euroland where testing is a quaint concept .. so it is needed but typically the Germans have imposed their model (egged on by the vehicle manufacturers... no "copy parts" = more sales)... and the voice of reason/sense has been ignored.
 

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What is so magical about 30 years ? I suspect it is purely arbitrary and more linked with tax, job creation, industry support - not safety. If safety was the issue, then then there would be no time limit. In some countries there are a LOT of 30+ year old cars - many of which will be dubious in terms of safety. When I was still living in New Zealand, the MOT testing was a huge rip-off. I had my car failed by a rip-off artist when he did not realise it was still under warranty. I used him because he was convenient - and this is the sort of thing the compulsory testing system encourages. It is a huge impost and very little is gained in terms of overall safety. Look no further than money, politics, special interest groups (lobbyists). I would encourage people to actively fight it - drop your local MP an e-mail at least.
 

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It's directly proportional to the age of the youngest car in the garage of an mp on the cabinet.

The British government have already announced that they don't care for online polling, so unfortunately we just get to stay discontented.
 

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From Historic Vehicles MOT - News - Department for Transport

"Whilst the pre-1960 manufactured vehicles made up 0.6% of the 35.2m licensed vehicles in GB they were involved in just 0.03% of road casualties and accidents. Two-thirds of them are driven under 500 miles a year and their initial MOT test failure rate (10%) is only a third of that of post -1960 manufactured vehicles."
 

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From Historic Vehicles MOT - News - Department for Transport

"Whilst the pre-1960 manufactured vehicles made up 0.6% of the 35.2m licensed vehicles in GB they were involved in just 0.03% of road casualties and accidents. Two-thirds of them are driven under 500 miles a year and their initial MOT test failure rate (10%) is only a third of that of post -1960 manufactured vehicles."
Thats a fantastic find ! puts things into perspective. However, I suspect the authorities will not let facts get in the way of stupid regulation :eek:
 
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