[Krix]

What are the differences between these three vehicles? I know the -50 designates long wheelbase, and the -00 designates short wheelbase however I have read a number of blogs where people refer to the -00 as also having a 3250mm wheelbase.

 

[tkv000]

The L has a longer frame overhang.

 

[Krix]

Ok thanks for the info.

 

[tkv000]

I could be wrong, and its happened a lot but I think that's what it means,

My manual says:

435.110 U1700
435.111 U1700 L
435.113 U1700 L/38

Here's the dimensions/spec's page just for craps and giggles

 

[Krix]

My confusion occurred when I started noticing people referring to their u1700 unimogs as having a 3250mm wheelbase. As far as I know, the unimog u1700 has a 2810mm wheelbase.

 

[tkv000]

I've only seen them in 3250mm...

Looking here:

http://www.rockymountainmoggers.com/unimogmodels.html

The list the 435 Series all 3250mm,

But I'd never say never in the mog world...they go onto list the 437 series as a 2810mm, just as you say.

437.100 U1700 2810 366.963 170 UG 3/40 or 3/65

I gotta get me one of those little blue technical books....

The "L" in the model number in all Unimogs stands for longer frame. The additional length is all behind the rear axle. In the case of the two 1650's it's a 376 mm difference. The "standard" or short frame models are designed to be used with a full range of rear implements and such as PTO's and three point hitches, backhoes, etc. The longer frame models are designed for installation of fixed bodies and are not available with Rear PTO's, three point hitches, nor suitable for heavy rear mounted implements. A lot of people assume the "L" is an abbreviation for LKW or Lorry? Nope, it simply is the first letter of "lang", the German word for long.

There is some variation in how MB used the designation. For instance instead of the model U1700 L/38, they had, for a time, a model called "U 1700 LL" meaning long frame and longer wheelbase. They finally standardized on the current convention of all "L" models are wheelbase of 3250 mm except when designated with "/37, /38, etc.." (Of course they had to violate their own system when they built a few long wheelbase models with short frames.) Thus you have such as a "U2150 /38". Look Ma. No "L"

Of course, I know a guy that has a U1300 that the cab plate says "L37" but its a 3250mm wheelbase, so, I take every rule with a grain of salt now

 

[Tmax]

My confusion occurred when I started noticing people referring to their u1700 unimogs as having a 3250mm wheelbase. As far as I know, the unimog u1700 has a 2810mm wheelbase.

the original u1700 with the 435 chassy had 3.25 meter wheelbase. however when they went to 437 chassy, the U1700 had 2.8 meter wheelbase while the new U1750 was the new 3.25 meter wheelbase.

 

[Mountain Benz]

the original u1700 with the 435 chassy had 3.25 meter wheelbase. however when they went to 437 chassy, the U1700 had 2.8 meter wheelbase while the new U1750 was the new 3.25 meter wheelbase.

This makes the most sense. Unless they are an L3x, the older ones are 3250. I have never seen a short 1700 but, then I never search beyond the years I can import to the US The 1750's I have seen are 3250 as well.

The the one mog constant applies here too, there really are no rules.

 

[Tmax]

This makes the most sense. Unless they are an L3x, the older ones are 3250. I have never seen a short 1700 but, then I never search beyond the years I can import to the US The 1750's I have seen are 3250 as well.

The the one mog constant applies here too, there really are no rules.

if you apply the xx50 rule to anything that was done around 1990 and later, then it works. i think thats about the time that they started using this labaling.

 

[TRUKTOR]

My U1250 was an '86 and had the 3250 mm wheelbase, so the system was in place then.
The U1200's being the Shortys.

 

[tkv000]

Speaking of, almost time to update that profile isn't it?

 

[Tmax]

My U1250 was an '86 and had the 3250 mm wheelbase, so the system was in place then.
The U1200's being the Shortys.

a better way to say it is that it became standard around 1990ish and before that it was just wishy washy hit and miss but not the rule.

 

[Krix]

Hmmmm......I really need a manual on Unimogs. I have been researching, and if there is one obvious truth about them, it's that no two are the same.

 

[Tmax]

Hmmmm......I really need a manual on Unimogs. I have been researching, and if there is one obvious truth about them, it's that no two are the same.

if you tell us what your needs are, the right unimog could be recommended and then you can just research that particular type.

also keep in mind that research is only so good. unless you get true reliable info, often false things get repeated and eventually become facts.

learning new things about mogs everyday is part of the whole experience though.

 

[ACAD_Cowboy]

The problem with a manual is no matter how much care you apply in tabulating and collating all the data, the moment you print it; new, conflicting or otherwise vague but conclusive information will surface, likely from ma'benz herself, and all will be for naught.

 

[tkv000]

Also fill in your profile, location helps with advice and availability.

 

[tmodler]

also keep in mind that research is only so good. unless you get true reliable info, often false things get repeated and eventually become facts.

Sage advice.

C.

 

[imjustdave]

I have a feeling that the 00 VS 50 classification may have only applied to those Unimog built as tractors VS carriers And for some reason latter on were applied to all unimogs. Good example is the U1700 and U1300 Unimog. VS 1200, 1400, 1500, 1600 While we are talking about the different classes of Unimog we need to keep in mind that they came in a wide variety of options axles being some of the biggest variations. 6 lug vs 8 lug vs 10 lug. With the customer being the finial creator of what they really wanted.

Keeping with tradition my U1250 VL… yes VL “no idea truly what VL means” is a complete odd ball seemingly breaking the rules.

Again this is just a thought of mine, no Mabez facts to back it up.

In the end I use the #’s as a base line to start with and then look at the options to really figure out what you’re looking at. As we all know nothing is standard.