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Alright, I know there are a ton of these threads, but I haven't really figured out if I can fix my problem this way..

I bought some wheels with tires on craigslist today... pretty good deal, $400 for wheels and newish tires (both in mint condition). I believe they came off a '03 CLK. I didn't think I'd have rubbing issues, as the fronts are 205/55 R16 and the rears are 225/50 R16. The fronts are rubbing on the front fender lips (the usual place), but the rears seem to be rubbing on the inside part of the tirewell as well as the fender lip (I think).

Can I fix this problem by purchasing new Bilstein sport shocks while keeping my stock springs? Also, what's the problem with the front, as I've heard that 215's fit perfectly.. these are 205's. Is it a problem with the offset?

Thanks.

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try putting the 55 in back..55 is the height ratio. u have taller tires in the front
 

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Not necessarily, JJ. According to the Tire Rack site,

205/55/R16 = 24.9" diameter (height), 835 RPM, and 7.6" width

225/50/R16 = 24.9" diameter (height), 837 RPM and 8.3" width


I have the same size set up on mine except for 15". He may have an offset problem going on.
 

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ppetracca said:
Alright, I know there are a ton of these threads, but I haven't really figured out if I can fix my problem this way..

I bought some wheels with tires on craigslist today... pretty good deal, $400 for wheels and newish tires (both in mint condition). I believe they came off a '03 CLK. I didn't think I'd have rubbing issues, as the fronts are 205/55 R16 and the rears are 225/50 R16. The fronts are rubbing on the front fender lips (the usual place), but the rears seem to be rubbing on the inside part of the tirewell as well as the fender lip (I think).

Can I fix this problem by purchasing new Bilstein sport shocks while keeping my stock springs? Also, what's the problem with the front, as I've heard that 215's fit perfectly.. these are 205's. Is it a problem with the offset?

Thanks.

Here are some pics:

I had the same issue, it is the tires, they are to high, check out my thread:


http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w201-190e-d-class/1250267-rubbing-soound-front-tires.html
 

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RDM3, what kind of shocks did you replace yours with? Just the normal stock ones? Or did you move to Bilstein sport? Did you keep the stock springs?
 

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Alright, so here are my options:

1. Return the rims & tires, get my $400 back
2. Sell the almost-new continental tires that are currently on them, and buy new ones. I'm thinking 205/50 for the front, 215/45 (or 50?) for the rear.

As for upgrading the suspension and adding lowering springs and Bilstein sport shocks, how does that affect rubbing?

I'm not having any rubbing issues with the front bumper. It's close.. just 1/4 inch when the wheel is slightly turned. It's mainly the outside (lip) and inside of the front wheel well, and the same for the rear.

Any suggestions? Thanks.
 

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if u like the rims then just go get tires. keep these tires or sell them. i didnt realize that the tires were 205 and 225, i thought they were 205 all around.
 

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ppetracca said:
Alright, so here are my options:

1. Return the rims & tires, get my $400 back
2. Sell the almost-new continental tires that are currently on them, and buy new ones. I'm thinking 205/50 for the front, 215/45 (or 50?) for the rear.

As for upgrading the suspension and adding lowering springs and Bilstein sport shocks, how does that affect rubbing?

I'm not having any rubbing issues with the front bumper. It's close.. just 1/4 inch when the wheel is slightly turned. It's mainly the outside (lip) and inside of the front wheel well, and the same for the rear.

Any suggestions? Thanks.
Play it safe, go with 205/50/16's all around, I had the same rubbing problem, once you hit a hill you will rub, thats my opinion tho.

I kept my rims and sold the tires on ebay, I broke even on the tires.

Who did you get your rims from? ebay?
 

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If you are rubbing on the inner wheel well on the back put some spacers on the rims.
 

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why in the world would you even buy KYB, or EVEN concider buying them??? have you not seen my video about them??
 

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I would run 205's all around, but I don't think the rear rims will support tires that small. I think 215's would already be pushing it. Sorry, I don't really have the specs on these rims. I'm assuming the fronts are 7-7.5", rears are 8-8.5". The rear wheels are noticeably wider than the fronts. Also, I have no idea what the offsets are for these rims. It was such a great deal, so I figured I better pick them up before someone else does.
 

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Also, do you guys think reducing the tire profile size by 5mm would cure the problem? That'd mean downgrading the front 205/55's to 205/50's and rear 225/50 to 225/45.
 

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First off.....Those tire wall sizes are not in mm.

And yes it probably will help
 

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A toplist for shocks would be:

1. Febi-Bilstein

2. Eibach-Federn

3. Sachs

4. Koni

5. Apex

6. Monroe

7. H&R

8. KYB

9. KW

10. Weitec
 

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i got kybs and theyre fine.
 
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