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James,

yes, spacers will put some additional stress on the bearings. However, MBUSA wheels have an ET of 43 and the rest of the world has ET 63 - that moves the center of the wheel 20 mm to the outside (and creates more bearing stress). If I go with 30 mm, I think I am still within reasonable limits.
When I used wheels with ET 8 (#29 on my wheels page)on my 300GD, however, the stress was so significant that the bearings needed replacing every 25,000 miles. ET 8 move the wheels out by 55 mm (63-8 = 2.2") and that combined with 35" wheels is not a very natural position - looked good though (picture below).

http://rubicon-trail.com/G-Class/wheels/start.html

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correction

the image above has custom American Racing wheels with ET -25
that translates to moving the center line of the wheel out by 88 mm (3.5") on each side.

Before you ask - they don't sell wheels with 5/130 bolt pattern. They custom drilled one set for me and never did it again. They claimed it was too complicated. Yup, Americans like it simple.

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mcshin - 5/21/2005 1:02 PM

Those look like the sprinter wheels? What offset are they?
If you are thinking of the wheels I mentioned, offset is 30mm. ET(Einpresstiefe) is the same as offset.

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RE: the verdict is in Running Boards

I've wanted to remove them on my truck- no one seems to use them (some people are afraid to step on them because they have chrome they look like they are fragile.)

Is it a big practical difference? Is it more difficult to get in or out? I'm 6'5" but my better half is 5'7" and we might get rid of her car and just have mine ( to pay for the *&[email protected]* legal bills.)

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NewBuyer,

I am 6'0, and my wife is 5'9". we don't have any problem entering and exiting our G. Your pantleg also won't touch a dirty runningboard. If you offroad, your breakover angle will be improved.
 

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RE: the verdict is in Running Boards

My running boards get used all the time, but there's only one way to find out if you really need them and it's to take them off.
 

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RE: the verdict is in Running Boards

NewBuyer - 5/21/2005 10:05 PM

I've wanted to remove them on my truck- no one seems to use them (some people are afraid to step on them because they have chrome they look like they are fragile.)

Is it a big practical difference? Is it more difficult to get in or out? I'm 6'5" but my better half is 5'7" and we might get rid of her car and just have mine ( to pay for the *&[email protected]* legal bills.)

m
I'm 6'4" and my wife is 5'4". I use them occasionally, but she needs and loves them.

They also have the added advantage of protecting the sides of your G from those parking lot jerks who use the braille method of opening their doors.
 

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RE: the verdict is in Running Boards

good point. with the running boards it's impossible to get "doored" unless parked next to another tall vehicle with doors that can get over top of them. They also serve nicely to keep the dirt off the side of the car that would otherwise spray up from the tires.
 

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RE: the verdict is in Running Boards

ewalberg - 5/22/2005 6:57 AM

They also serve nicely to keep the dirt off the side of the car that would otherwise spray up from the tires.
Not when using the open grid style from Europa; but that's what the front mud flaps are for. [:D]
 

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A thread to read a lot of times - by Harald

Larger tires can give agressive appearence but if you are not in a G 500 ( G400 , G270 or G 320 ) in wich you have a lot of excedent torque you may have f difficulties in the first mud uphill .



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Zé Bocaina said:
Larger tires can give agressive appearence but if you are not in a G 500 ( G400 , G270 or G 320 ) in wich you have a lot of excedent torque you may have f difficulties in the first mud uphill .



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4x4abc said:
Fernando,

trust me - you will NOT be happy with larger tires on your 240GD.
Your current tire size is exactly 28.1" - if you go to 32" tires you will lose 12.7% of your available torque at the tires

right now you have about 115 Nm @ 1000 = 1211 Nm per powered wheel in 2WD (2422 Nm total)
the 32" tires will bring you down to 100 Nm @ 1000 = 1057 Nm per powered wheel in 2WD(2115 Nm total)
calculated with engine torque, first gear ratio, axle ratio (25:1)

Fact is, that the 240 GD has less torque @ 1000 rpm (115 Nm) than the 230G (140 Nm).

Like in my above example, going from stock (29.5") to 32" on a G500 is not really noticeable. I lost 8% of torque. Nominal engine torque @ 1000 is 340 Nm
stock tires = 1970 Nm per powered wheel in full time 4WD (7880 Nm total)
32" tires = 1812 Nm per powered wheel in full time 4WD (7250 Nm total)
calculated with engine torque, torque converter ratio, first gear ratio, axle ratio (28:1)

With less numbers:
You start off with 2422 Nm to get 2000 kg moving - you don't want to lose a single Newtonmeter of that by putting on larger tires.
The G500 starts off with 7880 Nm to get 2300 kg moving - that's plenty, and to lose a few does not make a big difference.

img.1 = 240GD img.2 = 230G

Harald

Of course you guys understand and have lot more experience than Harald.
 

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[ Originally Posted by Zé Bocaina
Larger tires can give agressive appearence but if you are not in a G 500 ( G400 , G270 or G 320 ) in wich you have a lot of excedent torque you may have f difficulties in the first mud uphill . ]





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You dont Agree with Harald experience? Based on what CEOG?
 

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Der Fliegende Holländer said:
You said a mouthful there!:thumbsup:

Those posts of his here are why no-one misses him on the other G-Class forum. :shit not:
You dont agree with Harald conclusion based on what?
 

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Looks good.

You mentioned that you get the esp on the off or on ramps but if you keep your foot on the gas it doesn’t come on. Mine is the same way and has been since new. Also if you lightly apply the brake you can feel something in the brake pedal "click" and the light quits blinking too...
 
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