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Promises promises.

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quote: On the heels of its speedy capture of Palmyra, the group’s advance into Aleppo has rebel fighters questioning the U.S.’s commitment to containing the group.

“The dependability and seriousness of the West is questionable,” said Ahmad Qura Ali, spokesman for the Aleppo-based rebel faction Ahrar al-Sham.

Islamic State Advances Further Into Syria?s Aleppo Province - WSJ
 

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Iraq & Syria, let the various state and rebel groups kill as many of each other as possible, before showing the big hammer?
 

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Thanks Obama.
Anything else you can do for Bibi while you're over there paying for Israel's expansion?
 

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June 06, 2015 "Consortium News" - If sanity ruled U.S. foreign policy, American diplomats would be pushing frantically for serious power-sharing negotiations between Syria’s secular government and whatever rational people remain in the opposition – and then hope that the combination could turn back the military advances of the Islamic State and/or Al-Qaeda’s Nusra Front.
But sanity doesn’t rule. Instead, the ever-influential neocons and their liberal-hawk allies can’t get beyond the idea of a U.S. military campaign to destroy President Bashar al-Assad’s army and force “regime change” – even if the almost certain outcome would be the black flag of Islamic nihilism flying over Damascus.
As much as one may criticize the neocons for their reckless scheming, you can’t call them fickle. Once they come up with an idea – no matter how hare-brained – they stick with it. Syrian “regime change” has been near the top of their to-do list since the mid-1990s and they aren’t about to let it go now. [See Consortiumnews.com’s “The Mysterious Why of the Iraq War.”]
That’s one reason why – if you read the New York Times stories by correspondent Anne Barnard – no matter how they start, they will wind their way to a conclusion that President Barack Obama must bomb Assad’s forces, somehow conflating Assad’s secular government with the success of the fundamentalist Islamic State.
On Wednesday, Barnard published, on the front page, fact-free allegations that Assad was in cahoots with the Islamic State (also known as ISIS or ISIL) in its offensive near Aleppo, thus suggesting that both Assad’s forces and the Islamic State deserved to be targets of U.S. bombing attacks inside Syria. [See Consortiumnews.com’s “NYT’s New Propaganda on Syria.”]
Why does the New York Times put female journalists on their front pages, that blatantly lie in the stories they write. We had Judith Miller and the story of the WMD'S. Completely fabricated, everyone with a modicum of intelligence could see through her lies and deceit, except the editors at the NYT.
Now they put Anne Barnard on the front page, trying to convince the readers that Assad is aiding ISIS. Another mad woman, put there to try and convince the readers black is white. It's time the NYT employed news editors that would stop this complete distortion of the truth being printed, don't they care about the papers reputation? Obviously not, they can throw her to the wolves when she gets caught out again and again, pushing the state departments propaganda.
The New York Times is a propaganda tool for the administration, any administration.
 

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There's a great deal of information on Syria and the embattled Assad regime, but news sources like the NYT tend to ignore facts for sensationalism, and outright lies.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/04/29/the-day-after-damascus-falls/
Robert Parry is a well respected reporter, with extensive knowledge, and contacts in the M.E.
A favorite myth of Official Washington is that Syrian “moderates” would have prevailed if only Obama had bombed the Syrian military and provided sophisticated weapons to the rebels.
Though no such “moderate” rebel movement ever existed – at least not in any significant numbers – that reality is ignored by all the “smart people” of Washington. It is simply too good a talking point to surrender. The truth is that Obama was right when he told New York Times columnist Thomas L. Friedman in August 2014 that the notion of a “moderate” rebel force that could achieve much was “always … a fantasy.”
 

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What if we put the factious rebels on The Price Is Right and let them win something? A new Kia with a free ham inside might make them more amenable to toleration?
 

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lets allow Assad to crush them by any means necessary.
 

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It's just a process of redrawing the colonial borders. I suggest patience and forbearance unless something threatens the major source of world petroleum. So far, all parties have been rather timid on that issue.

Good for them.
 

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The lunatics fighting for ISIS are almost all foreigners.
They have no links to the region, only to their prophet, and some warped notion that they're doing allahs will.
 

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The lunatics fighting for ISIS are almost all foreigners.
They have no links to the region, only to their prophet, and some warped notion that they're doing allahs will.
... as opposed to unwarped versions of what Allah wants.
 

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Quite right Bot. Israel is entitled to a little expansionism to quell mounting disquiet amongst the former colonialists. It's all just so much hullabaloo over a few pushing the reset button.
 

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Quite right Bot. Israel is entitled to a little expansionism to quell mounting disquiet amongst the former colonialists. It's all just so much hullabaloo over a few pushing the reset button.
A turf battle of the previous 10,000 years probably won't be solved by a Kenyan living in DC.
 
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