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E-mail lies about Obama are a breeding ground for uncritical thinking

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Maybe you've gotten one. Perhaps you know someone who was recently infected. Possibly, you've hit "forward" and transmitted one yourself.

By now, most people have heard at least some of the lies, often spread on the Internet, about Barack Obama. It's not chance that these breathless, nonsensical rumors have multiplied as Obama's campaign has gained strength.

Different from the normal hype and mudslinging that candidates must be immune to, the fictions signal something dangerous. Not for Obama, but for our culture.

Often internally illogical, the e-mails purport to prove Obama is not patriotic, isn't really Christian or was schooled in extremist "madrassas" to one day make America Islamic.

Popular personalities are magnets for people's fantasy, and Obama himself knows this, observing that he sometimes serves as a blank screen for people's projections.

Yet the particular smear campaign against Obama has little to do with what people might speculate about the inner Obama. The e-mails are not founded on conflicting accounts from contemporaries, as were the Swiftboat attacks against Purple Heart-winner John Kerry during his 2004 campaign for the presidency.

Instead, the e-mails about Obama contradict some of the most easily provable, widely witnessed and documented events of his biography.

He wouldn't recite the Pledge of Allegiance? He was actually listening to the national anthem, and it's on Youtube.

His mostly black church is "separatist" or "racist"? It is indeed a controversial church. But one of the nation's most respected (white) theologians, Martin E. Marty, attends on occasion and has said, "Like all other nonblacks [we] are enthusiastically welcomed."

If one doesn't feel like sifting through Google or Nexis, try handy sites such as FactCheck.org or Snopes.com — nonpartisan sites devoted to checking out urban myths and political claims.

How about the Indonesia madrassa Obama supposedly went to — the one that teaches Wahabi Islam, the extreme form of Islam found in Saudi Arabia? It didn't exist.

Like millions of Americans, Obama has blood relatives and step-relatives who are Muslim, as well as Christian. But the elementary school he attended in Indonesia, home to Earth's largest Muslim population, actually was "a public school. We don't focus on religion," the headmaster confirmed to CNN.

Obama, who has attended the same church for two decades, has said as much for years.

What about the outfit Obama wore in Kenya? Even the Clinton campaign — which has now denied leaking the image of Obama in the dress of an African tribal elder — acknowledges that wearing local clothing is the sign of statesmanship. We want more of these respectful encounters with foreign cultures, whoever becomes president.

The fictions about Obama, instantly killed with the slightest research, are dangerous precisely because they are so thoughtlessly transmitted.

That many people seem ready to believe them, despite longstanding proof of their falsity, suggests these fictions are falling on predisposed minds.

This year's campaign boasts three excellent candidates. It's a race whose very suspense reflects the best, most enlightened and critical thinking in U.S. electoral history. Yet the lies about Obama are throwbacks to ancient fears of otherness: of another monotheistic religion, ethnic difference, or foreign experience that somehow suggests disloyalty.

Spread like germs to unresisting minds, those fears weaken a whole society's ability to think straight.
 

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First Friend of Obama: Barack Obama is a son of a bitch! Do you fellas know Barack Obama?
Second Friend of Obama: Hell yeah, I know Barack Obama! He's a big fella, goes about 6'4", 280. He loves his Scotch!


Third Friend of Obama: He does! He's a hell of a Senator!


Fourth Friend of Obama: To Barack Obama!


Together: Barack Obama!!


Third: Did you know Barack Obama is the godfather of my son?


Fourth: Barack Obama?


First: He's a big fella!


Second: Oh yeah, he's a big guy! Goes about 6'7", 385.


Third: Well, anyway.. he shows up at the church in his golf pants, caked in mud. Well, ol' Barack Obama pushes the priest aside and says, "I'll baptize that piece of calamari!" Then he pours Scotch all over my baby son and says, "There! You're baptized!"


Fourth: And your son is blind to this day!


First: Yeah, he makes brooms somewhere in Georgia, doesn't he?


Third: I have no idea. [ pause ] To Barack Obama!


Together: Barack Obama!!


Second: Did I ever tell you about the time Barack Obama sold me into slavery?


First: Well, if you're talking about Barack Obama, I believe it!


Second: Oh, yeah! He puts me on a ship to Thailand, right? And I'm chained to a pipe. Meanwhile, ol' Obama, he's back in the States siring three beautiful children with my wife!


First: I hate Barack Obama.. but I respect him!


Guy At Bar: Are you talking about Barack Obama? I know Barack Obama!


First: Then let me buy you a round!


Third: Hey, easy, Hank, easy.. To Barack Obama!


Together: Barack Obama!!


Fourth: Did I ever tell you about the time Barack Obama showed up at my daughter's wedding? You know my daughter; she's a beautiful girl.


First: I tell you, I'd like to have sex with her!


Fourth: Well, Obama shows up.. and you know he's a big fella.


Third: Goes about 7'8", 530.


Fourth: Well, he's standing right between me and my daughter at the ceremony. He's got no right to be there, but he's drunk and he's Obama! Well, long story short: the priest accidentally marries Obama and me! [ the guys laugh ] Off! Off! Off! We spend the weekend in the Pocono's - he loves me like I've never been loved before!


Second: Best damn Senator in the nation!


Together: Barack Obama!!


Third: You know how Obama served three tours in 'Nam?


Fourth: Uh-huh!


Third: Well, I'm in Corpus Christi on business a month ago, and I had this eight-foot tall Asian waiter.. which made me a little curious, so I asked him his name, and sure enough it's Ho Tran Obama!


First: To Barack Hussein Obama!


Second: Oh, yeah!

Fourth: Hey, you ever go camping with Obama?


Third: Many times.


First: I went camping with Obama, his wife, and his daughter Debbie!


Third: Debbie Obama?


First: Debbie Obama. She's 7-years-old, goes about 3'5", 55 pounds. So, I'm in the back of a pickup with Barack Obama and a live deer! Well, Obama, he grabs the deer by the antlers, looks at it and says, "I'm Barack Obama! Say it!" Then he squeezes the deer in such a way that a sound comes out of its mouth - "Barackobama!" It wasn't exactly it, but it was pretty good for a deer!


Third: That's Barack Obama!


Together: Barack Obama!!


Fourth: I once saw him eat a whole live chicken.


First: His favorite movie is "One on One" with Robby Benson.


Fourth: Barack Obama once gave me a videotape of him having sex with my wife, and it was the most beautiful damn thing I ever saw!


Second: I have that tape!


Guy At Bar: [ turning around ] So do I!


Third: To Barack Obama! A ten-foot-tall, two-ton son of a bitch who could eat a hammer and take a shotgun blast standing!


Together: Barack Obama!!
 

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"Barack Obama is the father of every kid in this town!"
"His poop is used as currency in Argentina."
"He sweats Gatorade"
"He once breast-fed a flamingo back to health."
"He hated Mexicans! And he was half Mexican! .......And he hated irony!"
"I once saw him scissor kick Angela Landsbury."
"He sheds his skin once a year."
"Barack Obama was a two ton man-mountain who could palm a medicine ball!"
"Barack Obama had a four day heart attack...a day for each chamber. At the autopsy, they said his heart looked like a basketball filled with riccotta cheese."
"He once punched a hole in a cow just to see who was coming up the road."
"He taught me how to make love to a woman, and how to scold a child."
"Obama drank a full glass of liquid LSD with his eggs. Then he slept for 8 months straight. When he woke he rubbed his eyes and said, 'All in all, I prefer gin.'"
"They say Gene Roddenbery got the idea for Star Trek from listening to Obama talk in his sleep."
"He killed Wolfman Jack with a trident."
"He drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls."
"You know, he would shoot whiskey into his neck with a syringe!"
"Barack Obama was a 10 foot monster who slept with all our wives! And punched us all in the face! And we loved him for it!"
"He's a ten foot tall beastman who showers in vodka and feeds his baby shrimp scampi."
"Did I ever tell you about the time Obama went hunting? Obama decides he's going to hunt down all four of the Banana Splits. He stalks and kills every one of them with a machette. They all begged for their lives...except Fleagle."
"We once had a bachelor party for Obama. He ate the entire cake before we could tell him there was a stripper in it."
"He has a toenail on the end of his penis."
"Obama once got his wife pregnant and gave birth to a delicious 16 ounce steak. The after birth was sauteed mushrooms."
"Obama named the group Sha-Na-Na. They did NOT want to be called that."
"They use Obama's foreskin as a tarp when it rains at Yankee stadium."
"He wears a live rattlesnake as a condom."
"Did I ever tell you about the time he taught his son how to drive? He did it by entering him in the Indy 500. The kid wrecked and died. Obama said it would've happened sometime."
"Obama's semen can form into a liquid human - like the guy from 'Terminator 2'"
 

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Lying, shit fucking fascist pigs:

Hannity, Morris repeat refuted claims about the price of Obama's house

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Summary: On his radio show, Sean Hannity asked, "Did Obama know at the time that Rezko was saving him three hundred grand on the purchase of his home?" On Fox News, Dick Morris asserted: "Rezko paid market price for his property. He [Obama] didn't pay market price for his and they came from the same seller. Who is to say that that wasn't a switch?" But Hannity and Morris provided no support for the claim -- which has reportedly been refuted by the seller -- that Antoin Rezko's purchase of the adjacent property enabled Sen. Barack Obama to purchase his house at a discounted price.


On the June 5 edition of ABC Radio Networks' The Sean Hannity Show, Hannity asked, "Did [Sen. Barack] Obama know at the time that [former Obama contributor Antoin "Tony"] Rezko was saving him 300 grand on the purchase of his home?" Additionally, on the June 5 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, syndicated columnist and Fox News contributor Dick Morris asserted: "Rezko paid market price for his property. He [Obama] didn't pay market price for his and they came from the same seller. Who's to say that that wasn't a switch?" But Hannity and Morris provided no support for the claim -- which has reportedly been refuted by the seller -- that Rezko's purchase of the adjacent property enabled Obama to purchase his house at a discounted price. Bloomberg News reported in a February 18 article, "The couple who sold Barack Obama his Chicago home said the Illinois senator's $1.65 million bid 'was the best offer' and they didn't cut their asking price because a campaign donor bought their adjacent land, according to e-mails between Obama's presidential campaign and the seller."

The Chicago Tribune first reported on the purchase of the adjacent properties by the Obamas and Rezko's wife on November 1, 2006. According to documents available on the Obama campaign website, the original price of the house was $1.95 million, and the Obamas paid $1.65 million. On November 5, 2006, the Chicago Sun-Times published a Q&A in which the paper asked Obama: "Why is it that you were able to buy your parcel for $300,000 less than the asking price, and Rita Rezko paid full price? Who negotiated this end of the deal? Did whoever negotiated it have any contact with Rita and Tony Rezko or their Realtor or lawyer?" In a written response, Obama stated:

Our agent negotiated only with the seller's agent. As we understood it, the house had been listed for some time, for months, and our offer was one of two and, as we understood it, it was the best offer. The original listed price was too high for the market at the time, and we understood that the sellers, who were anxious to move, were prepared to sell the house for what they paid for it, which is what they did.

Also during his radio show, Hannity asserted that Obama purchased a portion of the parcel of land adjacent to the house from Rezko for "a cheap price," claiming Obama "really wanted that extra stretch of property, and he got it because the Rezkos parceled it off and sold it to him at a cheap price." However, according to documents posted on the Obama campaign website, Obama paid $104,166 for the piece of property -- well above its appraised value of $40,500.

As Media Matters for America has noted, the "extra stretch of property" -- which is adjacent to Obama's house -- was purchased by Rezko's wife in June 2005 for $625,000, and the Obamas subsequently purchased one-sixth of the property. Obama told the Chicago Tribune in a March 14 interview how the price for the parcel of land was determined: "[T]he appraisal did note that the other parcel, Rezko's remaining parcel, would be fully developable if he sold this to me. And so rather than pay the appraised price, I paid one-sixth of the cost of his property. He agreed to sell that 10-foot strip."

From the June 5 edition of ABC Radio Networks' The Sean Hannity Show:

HANNITY: There's a lot of questions that remain here, and the RNC's [Republican National Committee] trying to get some answer to this. You would think the mainstream, left-wing, MoveOn media would ask, you know, "Did Obama or his office do favors for Tony Rezko?" Senator Obama's ties to, you know, now, Tony Rezko, you know, what favors happened? Rezko had recommended a business associate's son for one of the coveted summer internships in Obama's Senate office, and he made a pitch. Well, what happened? As a state senator, Barack Obama wrote letters to city and state officials supporting Rezko's successful bid to get more than $14 million from taxpayers to build apartments for senior citizens.

Did Obama know at the time that Rezko was saving him 300 grand on the purchase of his home? Did he know that he'd get that extra strip of land, considering they bought it on the same day? Did Obama or could have Obama afforded his home without Rezko's help? Obama originally said he couldn't afford to purchase that parcel of land that Rezko's wife purchased and that the house itself was already a stretch. But yet he really wanted that extra property, and he got it because the Rezkos parceled it off and sold it to him at a cheap price. Obama later said, well, he didn't need help purchasing both or either of the tracts of land involved in the purchase of the home.

I mean, it's -- there's a whole lot to this that has not yet been examined or -- you know, it's just like the Clintons and Whitewater. You know, it's just hard to get to the bottom of this because the media is never going to ask the questions that need to be asked here. But Rezko -- again, their relationship goes back to when he first offered him a job after law school. We know that. We know that Obama and Rezko socialized often with their families. We know that Obama went to their lake house in Wisconsin. We know that Obama has said, "Oh, yeah, we'd have plenty of lunches and breakfast together. We'd talk about politics, we'd talk about family." "Yeah, I've known Rezko for 20 years" -- that's another quote of Obama.

From the June 5 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:

HANNITY: Now, I want to move on to the issue of the conviction of Tony Rezko, 16 of 24 counts. Father [Michael] Pfleger, he had a 20-year relationship -- a guy who embraces Farrakhan.

MORRIS: Yeah.

HANNITY: Reverend [Jeremiah] Wright, a 20-year relationship.

MORRIS: Yeah.

HANNITY: William Ayers -- this goes back 20 years.

MORRIS: Yeah.

HANNITY: The Rezko relationship goes back 20 years, and they have this --

MORRIS: Yeah.

HANNITY: -- property scheme of theirs together. Is this painting a new picture, a new narrative, or do people just -- is it sort of -- there's one controversy too many, they don't pay attention?

MORRIS: No, no. I think that you and others have done a very good job of projecting the Jeremiah Wright issue and the Ayers and all of that. But that's only half the negatives on Obama. The other half is that he comes from a cesspool. There is nothing dirtier than Chicago politics. The last two governors of Illinois are either in jail or on their way to jail.

HANNITY: Yeah.

MORRIS: And the -- there is nothing filthier than Chicago politics. And he came up in Chicago politics with this guy Rezko. And then they did this real estate deal. And, hey, a losing real estate deal on Whitewater haunted the Clintons for 20 years. This is one where he may have made money.

KIRSTEN POWERS (Fox News political analyst): Dick --

HANNITY: A lot of money.

POWERS: Dick --

HANNITY: And he got a good benefit, yeah.

MORRIS: And it's not clear -- Rezko paid market price for his property. He didn't pay market price for his, and they came from the same seller. Who's to say that that wasn't a switch?

HANNITY: Yeah.
 

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Is this something new in politics?
 

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Let's see if your as feverish to expose any 'lies' told about McCain. Oh, but, it's okay to lie about anyone with an 'R' next to their name. Never mind.
 

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Let's see if your as feverish to expose any 'lies' told about McCain. Oh, but, it's okay to lie about anyone with an 'R' next to their name. Never mind.
Do you think he will be swiftboated too? like he actually was a guard at the Hanoi Hilton or something?:confused:
 

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Let's see if your as feverish to expose any 'lies' told about McCain. Oh, but, it's okay to lie about anyone with an 'R' next to their name. Never mind.
If you use the last two presidential elections as an example, the folks on the left didn't ever have to use any lies or half truths to bring into question Bushie's credibility. All the slander was driven by the right, from brown babying McCain to Swiftboating Kerry.

Go back to 1992 and Clinton went after Bush on the Economy, Bush went after Clinton on Whitewater and cattle futures. In 1996 Dole went after Clinton on Whitewater and cattlefutures and taxes and Clinton let Dole self destruct.

Swiftboating and lies do seem to be the expertise of the rightwing of American politics. Sorry, everyone has at least one drunk uncle.
 

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If you use the last two presidential elections as an example, the folks on the left didn't ever have to use any lies or half truths to bring into question Bushie's credibility. All the slander was driven by the right, from brown babying McCain to Swiftboating Kerry.

Go back to 1992 and Clinton went after Bush on the Economy, Bush went after Clinton on Whitewater and cattle futures. In 1996 Dole went after Clinton on Whitewater and cattlefutures and taxes and Clinton let Dole self destruct.

Swiftboating and lies do seem to be the expertise of the rightwing of American politics. Sorry, everyone has at least one drunk uncle.
But the deal was, it was all true except the brown baby thing
 

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Let's see if your as feverish to expose any 'lies' told about McCain. Oh, but, it's okay to lie about anyone with an 'R' next to their name. Never mind.
But to more accurately answer your question, I think that the Dems will tend to be respectful of McCains years of service in the Senate, allowing all of his votes with the charge and spend Republicans that put us in so much debt and threw us in such a trade imbalance speak for themselves. They will be fully respectful of his military time as it deserves full respect but will treat it as it is, ONE PART of his history, not his history.

Where McCain will get to enjoy the spotlight of a Democratic campaign is with the subject of lobbyists, the Keating Five, his 100 year Iraq comments, his continued confusion of trying to link Iran to AQ, his 95% voting WITH Bushie and his zeal to continue Bushie economic programs.

Look back at 18 months of Obama campaigning against the presumptive. Not once did he go hard negative or personal.
 

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But the deal was, it was all true except the brown baby thing
As has been proven more times than can be counted, most of the Swiftboating against Kerry was false. The rest was subjective interpretation of the situation.

Apparently the cattle futures thing was not sufficient to cause a red flag and whitewater was also not sufficient to cause indictments.
 

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As has been proven more times than can be counted, most of the Swiftboating against Kerry was false. The rest was subjective interpretation of the situation.
The guy has been offered millions of dollars to prove the allegations false......he can't.
 

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As has been proven more times than can be counted, most of the Swiftboating against Kerry was false. The rest was subjective interpretation of the situation.

Apparently the cattle futures thing was not sufficient to cause a red flag and whitewater was also not sufficient to cause indictments.
Doesn't make them false.
 

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The guy has been offered millions of dollars to prove the allegations false......he can't.
Doesn't make them false.
Neither are required to get down in the mud with ingrates to play those kind of games.

The Swiftboat issues were proven false by others, apparently not to the liking of "I will pay..." Pickens who changed the rules in the middle of the deal. He was then told to STFU and promptly did.

As for the others, doesn't make them true either. I know there is a shade of truth or there would not be legs to the story but the BS the rightwing yammer corp has put to it is no where near what occurred or what could have been debated. They moved it from political point to farce, much like the Michelle Obama "comment".
 

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Neither are required to get down in the mud with ingrates to play those kind of games.

The Swiftboat issues were proven false by others, apparently not to the liking of "I will pay..." Pickens who changed the rules in the middle of the deal. He was then told to STFU and promptly did.

As for the others, doesn't make them true either. I know there is a shade of truth or there would not be legs to the story but the BS the rightwing yammer corp has put to it is no where near what occurred or what could have been debated. They moved it from political point to farce, much like the Michelle Obama "comment".
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E-mail lies about Obama are a breeding ground for uncritical thinking

Houston Chronicle Editorial


Maybe you've gotten one. Perhaps you know someone who was recently infected. Possibly, you've hit "forward" and transmitted one yourself.

By now, most people have heard at least some of the lies, often spread on the Internet, about Barack Obama. It's not chance that these breathless, nonsensical rumors have multiplied as Obama's campaign has gained strength......
I cann't believe that political operatives would intentionally spread lies, misinformation, and innuendo just for political gain, can you?

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Neither are required to get down in the mud with ingrates to play those kind of games.

The Swiftboat issues were proven false by others, ...
NO, they ALL weren't proven false. A few were. But if IRC even many of those yet to be disproved could be if only Mr Kerry would release ALL of his DoD records.
 
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