The E/S switch is separate, not included with any FGS module.
I think it's a Euro only thing.
- Steve
I think it's a Euro only thing.
- Steve
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Well, the 1st Gear start is automatic. No need to fiddle with the gear shifter.ChopTop250SE said:
The 1st Gear Start Module from BergWerks is also programmable. You can select the downshift and upshift speeds depending on your preference. Downshift to 1st at 1 mph and upshift to 2nd at 7 mph was the pre-set option, but you can change it for a more aggressive shift pattern such as downshift to 1st at 5 mph and upshift to 2nd at 15 mph.
The MB 1st Gear Start module does not have this programmability.
Hope this helps.
I use the "Off" switch quite a bit.DarkOneSK said:
In stop-and-go traffic the 1st gear is neither smooth nor comfortable, so in heavy traffic I always turn it off.
In the wet I always turn it off to avoid wheelspin (I have an open diff....).
Most of the time I use the standard BergWerks shift points; downshift to 1st at 1 mph and upshift to 2nd at 7 mph.
Occasionally I find a higher downshift point, about 5 mph, to be fun, but for fast starts you'll engage the kick-down switch and the tranny will hold the gears until redline, regardless of whether you have a 1st Gear Start module or not.
The E/S switch from the manual
This is what the manual says about the E/S switch. It would appear to change the shift points.
This is what the manual says about the E/S switch. It would appear to change the shift points.
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All greetings and sorry for my bad English !
I will try to explain .....
The principle of work of all existing modules the FGS is same !
We have original Mercedes,BergWercks and FGSSwitch. But they all do same they are trace speed of the car and depending
of it they are turning on "Kickdown", or switch it off.
If you have got Fgs installed in you car at the
moment When you start your engine voltage moves it to KickDown and car will start from first gear. (you will get similar result when you start from position "B").
When you star moming off from first gear and when you achieve pre-seted speed in FGS module, the voltage from KickDown will be removed
and then car will shift to second gear.
When you brake till pre-seted speed in module , the voltage to KickDown renews, and then first gear turns on.
In the original MB module there is no opportunity to change speed levels.
In BergWercks module you have choice of two possible variants: Downshift to 1st at 1 mph and Upshift to 2nd at 7 mph,
or Downshift to 1st at 5 mph and Upshift to 2nd at 15 mph.
In our FGSSwitch pre-set Downshift to 1st at 6 mph and Upshift to 2nd at 6 mph.But when you connect the module to a laptop
you can change parameters of speed in a range 1-24 mph c at a step 1 mph!According to your preferences and style of driving!
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In case of setup FGSSwitch on the European versions of cars you can use switch S/E for return to start from the second gear.
It will work so: S - start with the 1st gear, E - start with the 2nd gear.
In case of setup FGSSwitch on the American versions of cars you can use Child Window Switch for return to start from the second gear.
It will work so: Blocking is switched off - start with the 1st gear, included - start with the 2nd gear.
But main advantage FGSSwitch: measurement of dynamic characteristics of the vehicle (MDC.) MDC function begins time count automatically, from the receiving of the first pulse of ABS sensor. The user can choose one of three modes of measurement:
- Acceleration time 0-100 km/h;
- Acceleration time 0-200 km/h;
- Quarter mile pass time.
The gained information can be displayed on user's PC.
The time measurement occurs constantly, in automatic mode, without dependence of whether 1st gear start or 2nd gear start.
Accuracy of measurement is 0.01 sеc.
I will try to explain .....
The principle of work of all existing modules the FGS is same !
We have original Mercedes,BergWercks and FGSSwitch. But they all do same they are trace speed of the car and depending
of it they are turning on "Kickdown", or switch it off.
If you have got Fgs installed in you car at the
moment When you start your engine voltage moves it to KickDown and car will start from first gear. (you will get similar result when you start from position "B").
When you star moming off from first gear and when you achieve pre-seted speed in FGS module, the voltage from KickDown will be removed
and then car will shift to second gear.
When you brake till pre-seted speed in module , the voltage to KickDown renews, and then first gear turns on.
In the original MB module there is no opportunity to change speed levels.
In BergWercks module you have choice of two possible variants: Downshift to 1st at 1 mph and Upshift to 2nd at 7 mph,
or Downshift to 1st at 5 mph and Upshift to 2nd at 15 mph.
In our FGSSwitch pre-set Downshift to 1st at 6 mph and Upshift to 2nd at 6 mph.But when you connect the module to a laptop
you can change parameters of speed in a range 1-24 mph c at a step 1 mph!According to your preferences and style of driving!
In case of setup FGSSwitch on the European versions of cars you can use switch S/E for return to start from the second gear.
It will work so: S - start with the 1st gear, E - start with the 2nd gear.
In case of setup FGSSwitch on the American versions of cars you can use Child Window Switch for return to start from the second gear.
It will work so: Blocking is switched off - start with the 1st gear, included - start with the 2nd gear.
But main advantage FGSSwitch: measurement of dynamic characteristics of the vehicle (MDC.) MDC function begins time count automatically, from the receiving of the first pulse of ABS sensor. The user can choose one of three modes of measurement:
- Acceleration time 0-100 km/h;
- Acceleration time 0-200 km/h;
- Quarter mile pass time.
The gained information can be displayed on user's PC.
The time measurement occurs constantly, in automatic mode, without dependence of whether 1st gear start or 2nd gear start.
Accuracy of measurement is 0.01 sеc.
Well, I stand corrected on that one; the E/S Switch does affect the shift points.
Does that mean the Euro transmissions have different valve bodies from the US transmissions?
Modern transmissions have sensors and processors to activate shift points, but ours are fairly low on electronic content. It would seem to me that only a different valve body could achieve the effect described in the owner's manual.
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Does that mean the Euro transmissions have different valve bodies from the US transmissions?
Modern transmissions have sensors and processors to activate shift points, but ours are fairly low on electronic content. It would seem to me that only a different valve body could achieve the effect described in the owner's manual.
Seeing that the FGS system sold for $275.... I can't see how having that option is worth that price It was however worth it to someone. Anyone from this forum have it installed?
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