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Get ready to see the seeds of a new nation germinate. What would be the cost?
 

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If ISIS doesn't alter the boundaries.
The Kurds are in retreat.
Can the US hold ISIS?
 

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Did you notice that access to the Mediterranean bit? They will not be landlocked...

Is this finally the $20 a barrel of oil that Cheney was touting?
 

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If ISIS doesn't alter the boundaries.
The Kurds are in retreat.
Can the US hold ISIS?
ISIS is a tool, they will be gone once "the balance" is established. I mean, they will be gone from the form they are seen today. They will have Syria and Iraq's Sunni corridor as their Caliphates and will have full diplomatic relations with countries willing to make a profit from all of this.
 

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The Turks will be thrilled.
We will persuade them that there is a precedent: Israel!
They will have to comply or we will make them feel it in so many bad ways. Oil above all other matters!
 

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If that can be achieved, Turkey would become a turkey. Money talks and bull$hit walks...
 

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While central government of Iraq and Syria doesn't have control of their Kurdish minorities anymore, trying to re draw borders in the manner shown would mean immediate war and incursion by Turkish troops imo.
The Mullah Kleptocracy of Iran would't even let it get to this point.
I used to come through the mountains around Erzurum. Towards the Armenian and Iranian border, there was a lower road at night controlled by bandits / highwaymen, and an upper military road which was not much safer. Another issue with this map is the inclusion of former Armenian lands, pre dating the genocide by Turks. A closer look at many of the mosques shows they used to be churches.
Iran, has Kurds, Iranian Azerbaijan has Azeri / Turkic, there are the former nomadic tribes, Baloch's, Lures, Bahtiari's, and even the Turkomans (Mongol horse people). They have been in the area that is now Iran for thousands of years, including Jews, Armenians, and Assyrian's.

In those days I visited friends in Sanandaj (Iranian Kurdistan).
Good people and fierce fighters. We had a number of employees in Tehran from the area, often with a simmering temper not far from the surface.
Handle with care, like a hand grenade whose pin is pulled.
 

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Obama bombs ISIS in Iraq, and gives them weapons in Syria.
He wants ISIS to back off and leave Kurdistan.
ISIS must consolidate Sunnistan, in the west of Iraq.
And get back to Syria, they haven't overthrown Assad for Obama yet.
He expects them to pull their finger out and get on with it.
 

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Yep, it went out off control a bit. Lebanon is next!
 

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It started already. Now we have two cancerous tumors.
 
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