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This is for my 300D, but same applies to 107 starters.

I checked the number on my existing 300D starter. It is 0 001 362 600. Original Bosch starter.

Looking on-line, I can find some eBay auctions for that number. But when looking at vendor sites, they come up with either SR67X or SR70X for my 1985 300D.

Anyone know of a cross reference between these numbers?
 

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I found that Bosch have something on their site, if you look deep enough. It doesn't really do much, but if you enter the number that is punched into the starter body, it will come up with designations more like those many vendors use. For example, in my case 001362600 comes up with SR61X and SR67X. Clicking on those tells you which cars they fit.

As it turns out, SR67X is the starter I need, but Bosch say it is wrong for my car! And as a result, many vendors say the same thing. I have to buy a starter for an 84 instead of 85. Life is not always simple :)
 

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I found that Bosch have something on their site, if you look deep enough. It doesn't really do much, but if you enter the number that is punched into the starter body, it will come up with designations more like those many vendors use. For example, in my case 001362600 comes up with SR61X and SR67X. Clicking on those tells you which cars they fit.

As it turns out, SR67X is the starter I need, but Bosch say it is wrong for my car! And as a result, many vendors say the same thing. I have to buy a starter for an 84 instead of 85. Life is not always simple :)
Try this link: BOSCH 0001362600 - Alternative starters/alternators
If you click on the Valeo model # a ton of alternatives come up including the SR67X.
Alternatively, you could pull the original MB part # and use that to cross reference.
 

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Try this link: BOSCH 0001362600 - Alternative starters/alternators
If you click on the Valeo model # a ton of alternatives come up including the SR67X.
Alternatively, you could pull the original MB part # and use that to cross reference.
Interesting. I found that link earlier, but when I entered the actual number off the starter, it came up with the list your link did. I clicked on the Bosch number, but it didn't come up with the SRxxX numbers that most sites use. Wouldn't have thought of going from Bosch # to Valeo # in order to get back to Bosch SR number!

Starting with the MB number doesn't get to a Bosch number. Weird.

Anyway, I am now almost sure that the starter I may need is an SR67X.
 

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Are you searching for MB pn 0031515001? That's what I'm seeing on the interwebz for an 84' 300D........
 

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Are you searching for MB pn 0031515001? That's what I'm seeing on the interwebz for an 84' 300D........
I was not searching for or with an MB number. Just the equivalent of the Bosch number on my existing starter. Is it a Bosch SR67X or an SR70X? (Because that is the way they are sold) Turns out it is the former.

Regarding the MB numbers. My EPC is not working, but the on-line Russian one says my car W123.133 used part number 0031510701 from 1982-1985. However, this number was superseded by 003151070180 (I think the 80 means a reman). Some sites say current part # is 0031515001 but I don't believe that is a correct number for the 84/85 diesel.

For those interested, the problem is that there is a bit of a screech just as the engine starts. Seems it is caused by pinion staying engaged for a fraction too long before retracting. If I am very quick to release key, it doesn't do it.

Plan is to either get existing starter repaired or buy a reman SR67X.
 

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Dug out my old 107 starter today. It's number is 0001313007. Entered that in the cross reference site, but it did not come up with an SR type number. However, vendors say it uses an SR59X and their pictures look like my starter. However, the one I bought a few years ago, was smaller yet designated as SR59X. A geared unit I think. Much lighter. It fitted fine.

I was thinking of sending my old starter out for a rebuild, just to keep as a spare. But rebuild will probably cost over $100 (drive was not retracting properly). So may leave that for another day :)
 

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Bad day in the Shop today! Took new exhaust apart several times to try an eleiminate interference with chassis. This while lying on back and fighting with those rubber hanger!

I never did buy a new starter for my 300D I talked about earlier in thread. It somehow was working better. Except today! Today, I cannot start the engine at all! Just get a click :(

Have done all the usual things. Battery fully charged, Battery load test good, Terminals cleaned. Grounds in engine bay cleaned. Tried remote starter using terminals near battery - same result (so not ignition switch). Tried tapping starter with short stick - no dice. Rotated engine by hand - not seized up! Hard to get at starter terminals, so did not do that.

Looks like starter has to come out. Not a DIY job for an 80 yr old without a hoist. So car will have to be towed :(

I will see if I can use the SL starter as a Core, so shop will have a starter to swap in.
 

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You don't cease to amaze with your spirit Graham, you're doing jobs most 40 year olds wouldn't 👍👌sorry to hear about the trouble, and your diagnosis sounds correct unfortunately. I suppose, when was the last time you started the car prior to attempt yesterday and were the warning signs formr a while or was that noise a recent development?
 

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...diagnosis sounds correct unfortunately. I suppose, when was the last time you started the car prior to attempt yesterday and were the warning signs formr a while or was that noise a recent development?
Car has been in regular use. It had been started many times recently while attempting to overcome new exhaust pipe interference. At first I thought battery had died due to over-use. But it seems good. I have had symptoms of a problem for quite a while. Like high pitch until starter retracted. But that would come and go, but had recently returned. At other times, starter would engage but barely turn the engine over. Somehow the diesel would fire and away we would go. Did seem like low voltage to motor, so I always blamed the battery. Could be that starter bearings are worn and it doesn't turn freely when engaged.

I will check the connections at motor and give the starter casing a few blows, just to see if I can get it started for long enough to get to local shop or my friend with hoist's house :) Otherwise CAA will have a towing job!
 

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Sounds like you found the culprit alright, let us know how you get on 👌
 
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