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Yes - miska olejowa :p maybe "oil plate" is good ?

Sump = oil bowl = oil plate

I am looking for oil plate with "pot" for oil not in front of but in the back.
(szukam miski olejowej która ma "garnek" na olej nie z przodu przy kole pasowym a z tyłu silnika.)

Witek też polak ? niesamowite :D
 

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Polacy sa na całym Swiecie.
Kilka lat temu szukałem hotelu dla psów w Las Vegas. Sa one dość drogie, wiec sprawdzałem rekomendacje i najlepszy, blisko centrum jest prowadzony przez Polke.
2 dni temu kupowałem bouta ;) na ogromnej aukcji. Starsza pani w okienku zaczęła mówić ze mną po polsku. Troche łamała, jako ze w domu mówią po angielsku, ale wyraźnie miała frajde przypominając sobie polszczyznę.
Inna dwuznaczność slow w jerzykach jest bardzo trudna do nauczenia się.
W angielskim mówi się przykładowo "widziałem to NA telewizji" - mając na myśli program a nie waze na telewizorze.
W polskim "klucz" możne być maszynowy albo do zamka. W angielskim masz "wrench" i "key" (to samo z "miska" która ma inna nazwę przy samochodach)
Tak czy inaczej masz okazje doszlifować swój angielski.
Powodzenia.
 

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I have a question, All version w210 (3.2/2.8/2.4) have a fuel tank pressure sensor? I ask because I can't find it.

There are no wires in the wiring of the motor controller, It's strange because, injection panel has input fuel but no return. fuel pump doesn't burn? There is only the mass from the motor controller to the relay fuel pump. and not have a charcoal filter in giver car(and no wires in the ECU)
 

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Just read through this thread....whew.

Now, wiring diagram should be identical between all variety of M112 engine variants -- with respect to regional emission standards....if one area emission standard is lax enough not to require a secondary air pump, then the wiring diagram won't include it.

But for the most part, you can use 3.2L M112 and it'll work in your case. Should be somewhere in the stickies.

Swapping a manual trans into M112 or OM606 will require the appropriate flywheel with magnet pickup/markers before engine will start. Now, if you grab the ECU from a later car, you could easily code the ECU to manual trans, which will make it ignore the fact that there's no input from TCU....check engine will be off as well.

If you're using the 1997 ECU, bad news: it might not be codeable, you'll have to connect the MB star to it and see if it has the option to change the transmission options.

M112 does not use a return fuel line -- it is a returnless fuel system, the fuel pressure regulator is built into the fuel filter. Any excess fuel pressure is routed back to the tank at the fuel filter.
 

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If I give manual fuel press control, will the engine work well ?? without the fuel pressure sensor, without a purge valve. Will build a new return with the injection panel. motor controller will not have an error ??
 

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Manual fuel pressure? Maybe, if you keep it close to the original fuel pressure regulator. If you start playing with it, the ECU will act up. It does not have fuel pressure sensor....the fuel pressure regulator in the fuel filter does all the work. Why don't you just use the original fuel filter, no need to fab your own regulator?

Missing purge valve WILL throw codes in the ECU. If you're going aftermarket ECU, like megasquirt or whatever, then no worries.

But keeping the factory ECU = keeping purge valve and other factory stuff to keep it happy.
 

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I had thought he was asking about a tank pressure sensor (which ties in with purge valve). But fuel pressure regulator makes more sense, I guess.
 

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I am looking for electrical schematics for mercedes e280 W210 2.8 V6 1997.
As for the scheme of automatic gearbox, ABS, engine control unit.
ST - I am not sure if you are still looking for this information?

Please complete your profile with model/year/location as this is sometimes important when looking up details in workshop manuals. Location is necessary as there can be minor differences between USA and models for other regions, eg Japan, Europe.

According to my MB workshop manual (WIS) your donor car was 210.063 with engine M112.921. Engine mixture control is by ME-SFI Control Unit (N3/10) - generally known as the CPU. This is ME-SFI type 2.0.

There are several versions of this module depending on USA/not USA, Cruise control/not CC, before 06/2000, after 06/2000.

I have selected the circuit diagram below for your car. This shows all the exterior connections to the N3/10 module, with connector details and wire colors.

As for the scheme of automatic gearbox.....
This car had transmission type either 722.606 or 617, which is controlled by Electric Transmission Control Unit (N15/3). The external circuit below is for models from 01/03/1997 to 31/05/1999.
 

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Discussion Starter #37 (Edited)
Witam, projekt jest nadal żywy. jednak znalazłem pracę w Szwecji i buduje samochód, gdy mam wakacje w Polsce.

Trochę się zmieniło.
miska olejowa została przebudowana, jest teraz estetycznie przyjemna i ma pojemność 10 litrów.
układ wydechowy ma dwie oddzielne rury, jedną z boku
Zmodyfikowałem układ paliwowy, użyłem zewnętrznego regulatora ciśnienia paliwa.
Mam 6 biegów manualna skrzynia biegów z 2.4 v6.
elektryk jest gotowy na 90%, emulator immobilizer został zainstalowany, samochód obraca się, ale się nie uruchamia.

Muszę znaleźć sposób personalizacji ECU,

Jest sygnał na pompie paliwa, że czasami chce uruchomić, ale iskra ucieka
Dziękuję wszystkim za pomoc, wszystko jest przydatne,
 

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Hi my project is still under construction, almost ready.

I have errors after connecting my computer:
-P1570 Error in the DAS to the engine controller
-P1605 Communication with ABS ASR, uneven surfaces,
-P0500
-P0600 CAN ESP communication
-P1747 CAN INSTRUMENT CLUSTER communication
-P1603 CAN bus EZS
-P1179, P1178, P1177 Oil sensor signal unstable.

These are all the bugs I have. The engine is in a different car, so I do not have a comfort module, abs, automatic transmission, a set of indicators and everything unnecessary, I only have an engine, engine controller, mechanical fuel pressure regulator (the converted injection rail has an exit to the tank)

Is the engine running normally or in "degraded mode" in the current situation?

Currently, the controller sees that the position of the gearbox P / N, brake pressed, oil temperature 215 * C

Can I somehow cheat the oil temperature sensor? e.g. see 90 * C all the time?
I can't find which cable is responsible for the brake signal.
Does the engine in this situation reach full power?

I have a jule immobilizer emulator.
 

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p0500. With this code the car will not run properly as there are no wheel speed sensor information.
P0600 similar to above.
P1750 no comm / interlock between DAS equivalent and ECU, cranking issue/
The oil sensor codes. In order to fake the oil sensor info to the ECU, you need some hardware to fake the 3-pulse train to the ECU to simulate an "Oil OK" signal. This can be tricky. It is better just to get an oil sensor (B40) and install.
 

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I understand, but sometimes it isn't:

If the motor sees it is in P / N position, it is okay because if the motor was in D position the motor would not have the wheel speed signal and would cut off the power? - mode failure?

P1570 / P1603 - i think this is a problem because i have an immobilizer emulator, the engine starts without problem every time, problem with the CAN is because the engine does not see any signal ??? no gearbox, no comfort module, no abs, nothing ?
P1605 / P0500 / P0600 - this is a problem because I do not have a gearbox module and I do not have an abs module
P1747 - no instrument cluster connected
P1179 / P1178 / P1177 - oil sensor but the computer show: oil level OK, oil temp 215*C,
I want the engine to work normally,
I have other devices to show oil pressure, oil temperature, engine temperature, RPM, manual gearbox,

in my other car, when something is bad, then I have a failure mode, the car has no power, max 2000 rpm, and speed 60 km / h,
takes a lot of fuel.

This M112 engine will it work normally with these errors?
The power is, the maximum speed was 170 km / h yesterday,
only the fuel consumption is terrible
 
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