[hbar]

So guns aren't assault weapons when not being used to assault people but when they are they're still not assault weapons just misunderstood pecadilloes.

Come on, this isn't that difficult to understand if you just put in some effort to try.

If someone buys an AR 15, or similar automatic rifle, for the sole purpose of shooting targets on their back 40, then it isn't an assault weapon. It's a toy.

On the other hand, if someone buys one of these guns with the intention of shooting people then it's definitely an assault weapon.

If you aren't clear why the intent of the owner makes a difference, then you need to understand that the term "assault weapon" is NOT a description of any physical feature of the gun itself - it's entirety a description of how it's intended to be used.

Incidentally, if the owner of an AR 15, who is using it solely for recreation, sells it to someone who plans to use it to go on a rampage and shoot up a Starbucks, then the gun becomes an assault weapon when it changes hands.

 

[Donf]

Erp, no. If someone buys an AR 15, or similar automatic rifle, for the sole purpose of shooting targets on their back 40 they're shooting targets with an assault weapon.

Or maybe a car is only a car when a driver takes it from A to B but if it sits idle with grass growing around it it's a pot plant.

 

[GreenT]

An AR15 is a toy as much as an African lion is a kitty.... this isn't that difficult to understand if you just put in some effort to try.

 

[Jakter]

The only thing that distinguishes a good guy with a gun from a bad guy with a gun is the body count.
Since it has to come to that, guns are clearly the problem.

Both sides can taunt each other endlessly but it's pretty clear this country has had enough of the gun violence epidemic and slowly but surely will act upon it.

 

[hbar]

An AR15 is a toy as much as an African lion is a kitty.... this isn't that difficult to understand if you just put in some effort to try.

African lions are alive. They act on their own biological instinct which is based on hunting and killing other animals for food.

Guns are not alive. They are inanimate objects that are nothing more than tools utilized by their owners. If the owner of a gun only uses it for the recreational value of shooting targets, then that gun is just a toy.

But your post reveals the source of your confusion regarding guns and why you believe guns themselves are the main problem and not their owners. If you believe that a live lion is analagous to an inanimate gun, then your misapprehension is inevitable.

 

[hbar]

. . . it's pretty clear this country has had enough of the gun violence epidemic and slowly but surely will act upon it.

Care to elaborate on that prediction, Nostradamus? What serious action toward reducing gun violence do you see happening in this country in the next few years?

From my perspective of watching American politics since the 1980s, I see future gun policy to continue to be the same political football that it's always been. Democrats and Republicans trot it out every 2 to 4 years as a cheap way to frighten their base into coming out to vote.

They always talk about guns real loud, but when the time comes to actually do something about gun violence there is no substance behind the rhetoric.

 

[GreenT]

Guns are not alive. They are inanimate objects...

Your inanimate object just shot up a bunch of kids at a high school...

Multiple Students Shot at High School in Santa Clarita

Aerial coverage showed multiple children being loaded into ambulances outside Saugus High School.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[hbar]

Erp, no. If someone buys an AR 15, or similar automatic rifle, for the sole purpose of shooting targets on their back 40 they're shooting targets with an assault weapon.

Or maybe a car is only a car when a driver takes it from A to B but if it sits idle with grass growing around it it's a pot plant.

Words mean things. A gun is a gun, and a rifle is a rifle, no matter how it's used. A car is a car, whether it's being driven or not.

But when you attach the word "assault" to the word "weapon" or "rifle", then you're specifically describing what it's intended purpose is. An assault weapon is a gun that is used to attack people. That's what "assault" means.

I do like the car analogy, though, because of the words you can attach to it. There are just about as many cars in America as guns (about 330 million). It's safe to say that more than 99% of cars in the U.S. are intended to be driven on the street. Though you may have an old car sitting behind your garage with weeds growing around it doesn't change the fact that it was driven on the street for 200,000 miles before it died.

But suppose that car is a 69 Camaro and you restore it and then drag it to car shows in a trailer. Now it's a "show car".

Or, instead of restoring it, you install a roll cage, modded suspension and a big block making 1,000 horsepower and then drag it to the race track on a trailer. Now it's a "race car".

 

[hbar]

Your inanimate object just shot up a bunch of kids at a high school...

Multiple Students Shot at High School in Santa Clarita

Aerial coverage showed multiple children being loaded into ambulances outside Saugus High School.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

All by itself? That is a neat trick.

 

[GreenT]

They have a mind of their own.

 

[Donf]

A toy used for target practice, apparently.

 

[sualk54]

Your inanimate object just shot up a bunch of kids at a high school...

was the shooter driving an ATV?

 

[GreenT]

Does a fully armed Abrams tank cease to be an Abrams tank once parked inside someone's garage?

Does a gun, rifle, machine gun become a toy when used as toys?

Did anyone hear about the monkeys who shared an Amazon account? They were Prime mates.

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[hbar]

I see that you guys find gun murders a source of amusement. I don't. You pretend to care about the 3 deaths and 2 injuries from this latest school shooting, but I'm not buying the act.

3 dead, plus several more injured is a typical Saturday night of gun violence in Chicago. When you can plausibly claim to care about the 500+ gun murders in Chicago plus the thousands of similar murders in other cities every year even half as much as the few dozen annual school shooting victims, then get back to me and I'll consider taking your opinions seriously.

 

[GreenT]

I consider you a source of amusement...

 

[Donf]

Another meh not-in-Chicago non-event. You guys are on a roll.

4 Dead, 6 Wounded in Mass Shooting in a Fresno Backyard, Police Say

 

[Brian VT]

MSM/Dems/Antis lost interest in that one quick, as usual, when they realized it was gangs and minorities and handguns. Where’s your “outrage” now?
Doesn’t fit the “Take the guns away from Joe & Jane American.” narrative.

 

[Donf]

Don't worry! There'll be another school shooting in no time to jolly your junk.

 

[Brian VT]

I take no joy in hearing of any crime.
And I certainly would never use it as an excuse to penalize law-abiding citizens.

 

[hbar]

Don't worry! There'll be another school shooting in no time to jolly your junk.

Typical gun control zealot hypocrisy. Ignore the 10,000 or so annual gun murders that take place in gang infested neighborhoods using cheap handguns and then cry "epidemic" and "national crisis" and demand that the guns owned by millions of law abiding citizens be banned and confiscated on the rare occasion that some lunatic shoots into a crowd at the local mall.
Exactly what the left wing politicians tell you to do.