jkinsey, send a PM to H-TownBenzoboy and ask him the HTTP address of the site I sent him. I've bought 2 sets of them, very plush, well made and affordable. November of 2005 H-TownBenzoboy was also looking for some and I sent him the address of the online site where I got mine. Unfortunately I experienced a major computer crash since then and lost a lot of my bookmarks so now I can't seem to find them. I remember H-TownBenzoboy was very happy with his purchase as I have been with mine. I've bought a half dozen different sets over the last 15 years but these are by FAR the best. They DO have a rather strong smell of lanolin when you first install them, not really gross or unpleasant, but you will notice it at first. Use an air freshener and it smells just fine, after a few weeks it just goes away. You won't be disappointed. Cyberbach