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Thanks again....but who can you believe then...

We just keep asking more questions and we will never get a complete and honest answer from anyone..from that script. OK, you say that it has been now proven that the mullahs were responsible.

..but..

Are the same values still being applied today as they were in 78 ?
 

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Thanks again....but who can you believe then...

We just keep asking more questions and we will never get a complete and honest answer from anyone..from that script. OK, you say that it has been now proven that the mullahs were responsible.

..but..

Are the same values still being applied today as they were in 78 ?
It has been proven that their followers set the 1978 (or 9?)Cinema Rex fire in Abadan after chaining all doors shut.
The burning alive of hundreds inside sparked the revolution.
It's like dealing with a bipolar Country. You have the regular army, air force, marine etc, but they are all duplicated in the mullah indoctrinated Pasdaran (Guardians of the Iranian Revolution), with their own air force, marine, tank battalions etc. They have also post revolution adapted the Chinese model.
The Revolutionary Guards Corps own businesses and controls some industries, imports, distributes, and is to a large extend sufficiently self financed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Revolutionary_Guard_Corps
The president can always be overridden by the ultimate authority, the supreme leader (Khomeini's successor).
Dual power structures and belief systems. It's like living in 2 parallel universes at the same time.

Same values? There are plenty of billionaires among the mullahs.
Former president Rafsanjani (worth billions) son't have offices in Dubai's Emirate towers, near my brother in law. They cannot set foot on Iranian soil, or they'll be arrested.
It's a mullah kleptocracy with plenty of mismanagement, but lucky for them resources are not as badly mismanaged as in Venezuela for example.

In the case of Aramco oil installation attacks, the technology came in all likelihood from Iran, but the attacks themselves, who can say? So far it has been guess work with imagined trajectories, but no one has been able to record the real trajectories on radar.
Btw, the area along the Yemeni Border and the Eastern and Western oil field are settled by a suppressed Shia minority of Saudi citizens..
Even in case some of the drones/rockets had Iranian / Farsi markings, so what?
The rockets sent by the Saudi's into Yemen will have US markings on them. Plausible deniability that make the US not directly responsible.
 

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Saudis were exporting 8 million barrels a day as of Friday, and are reported to be about a week ahead of schedule in restoring full production.
 

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Sounds fishy.
It's not so easy to repair or reconstruct a Gas/Liquid Processing Plant.
It's related with many things like vessel, pipeline, impulse line, DCS/SCADA system, differant parameter, connect to Human Machine Interface (HMI) Control room/Work station.
 

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Also depends on what they did, and did not, destroy, whoever they were.

I doubt there was only one process train at the plant, and if only, say, one out of two or three was affected, getting the other(s) up and running wouldn't be that difficult.
 

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The attack demonstrated impressive design and execution-carried out with only two weapon types.
The first were 7 Quds cruise missles driven by Czech jet engine-the second weapons were 18 suicide Drones.
Impressive and unprecedented impact accuracy of less than 3 meters.
The fragments of the Iranian Cruise missles have been identified as among derivitives of the 55-KH missles the Ukrain delivered to Iran in 2001.
It proved measured Power Utilisation-sending two types that achieved accurate hits. It also demonstrated superb Intelligance capability, both in identifying and selecting targets and in selecting the attack route.

The countries of the entire region and Israel have learned a lesson: Discovery and Interception systems do not provide a proper counter measure to new regional threats.

The attack is proof of Irans operational potential that relies on technological capabilitys, intelligence infrastructure and coordination, leading to the conclusion that the Western monopoly on precision-guided armaments has Evaporated.
 

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The attack demonstrated impressive design and execution-carried out with only two weapon types.
The first were 7 Quds cruise missles driven by Czech jet engine-the second weapons were 18 suicide Drones.
Impressive and unprecedented impact accuracy of less than 3 meters.
The fragments of the Iranian Cruise missles have been identified as among derivitives of the 55-KH missles the Ukrain delivered to Iran in 2001.
It proved measured Power Utilisation-sending two types that achieved accurate hits. It also demonstrated superb Intelligance capability, both in identifying and selecting targets and in selecting the attack route.

The countries of the entire region and Israel have learned a lesson: Discovery and Interception systems do not provide a proper counter measure to new regional weapons.

The attack is proof of Irans operational potential that relies on technological capabilitys, intelligence infrastructure and coordination, leading to the conclusion that the Western monopoly on precision-guided armaments has Evaporated.
 
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