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Yes they are. I should have used a question mark at the end. :)
 

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I just caught it.
Mapearso called it,
BBS-RT, and not Lorinser even
though they were made for Lorinser.
These are different from the one
GreenT posted.
night and day.

i'm admittedly uber-biased, but the bbs-rt is imo at the top of the period-correct wheel list for the 126

first of all it's a 3-piece wheel. then, it is a design hybrid, taking the best of of the two other sweet a## 3 piece wheels -- the bbs-rs and the amg-oz... but no cracks!

anyway, nice score chadahar. don't wanna hijack
 

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No problem. Info greatly appreciated.
 

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Rose has new TC and Guides! YEEE HAWWW!

Finally I am on my computer.

I spent Monday and tuesday putting in new upper guides in preparation for installing a new TC.

I want to shout out to Mike Ramay who talked me down yesterday afternoon. Thought I had done a big screw up, but it turned out I didn;t. Took Mike a few minutes to straighten me out and get me back down. Turns out I had done a rookie mistake by taking BOTH cam sprocketsoff at once,but in removing the driver's side my cam lock slipped and the cam moved backwards a bit. I had marked the chain and the sprockets on both, but when replacing the passenger side I inadvertantly put it on 2 teeth out. Luckily nothing bound up but I could not get the marks to align on both cam towers, Drivers side was dead on. pass. side was off a bit. I thought sure I had EFFED the whole thing. Quick call to Mike and we figured out I was out a tooth or two and no big deal. :crybaby2::thumbsup:

This morning I fed the new TC in and was out one tooth on the Pass. cam. pulled the Cam after marking both the chain and the the one tooth I had to back up. Backed up the cam and the cam sprocket the one tooth. Replaced the tensioner. Rolled her around and.......Dead Nuts On both cam tower marks and TDC. WHEW!!:bowdown::bowdown:

I proceeded to replace the cam oiler's and had cleaned the tubes. It pays to have gun cleaning equipment as I used bore brushes and such with the cleaning rod and got them sparkly clean inside annd out. Put on the new oiler bits. Replaced the oilers bak on the cam towers and buttoned up the engine. New VC gaskets. Replaced the Distributor and it went slam bang in place the first try. Pays to mark the pointer (rotor bug) to something on the engine, (A mark on the water pump at TDC number 1, There are marks on the RB and the Dist, body for number 1, I also marked the Dit. Body where the RB pointed when removed. I set it to that mark and the Dist. slid right in and the RB lined up dead on!

Tomorrow I will reassemble the front of the engine. Alternator and Mtg. PS unit and Mtg. Belts, Fan and the radiator and she should be good to go for another 100,000 miles.

Some thought . If Rose has never been worked on, this is one of a few that made 200,000 miles on the original TC. The innards of the heads are discolored from oil but the TC was only 7 1/2 Degrees stretch. the guides were discolored, but not brittle or worn , a bit on the lower ends, the tensioner arm liner was worn about half way through at the lower end that contacts the chain first.

Anyway this is my What did you do to your 126 today post.
 

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Finally I am on my computer.

I spent Monday and tuesday putting in new upper guides in preparation for installing a new TC.

I want to shout out to Mike Ramay who talked me down yesterday afternoon. Thought I had done a big screw up, but it turned out I didn;t. Took Mike a few minutes to straighten me out and get me back down. Turns out I had done a rookie mistake by taking BOTH cam sprocketsoff at once,but in removing the driver's side my cam lock slipped and the cam moved backwards a bit. I had marked the chain and the sprockets on both, but when replacing the passenger side I inadvertantly put it on 2 teeth out. Luckily nothing bound up but I could not get the marks to align on both cam towers, Drivers side was dead on. pass. side was off a bit. I thought sure I had EFFED the whole thing. Quick call to Mike and we figured out I was out a tooth or two and no big deal. :crybaby2::thumbsup:

This morning I fed the new TC in and was out one tooth on the Pass. cam. pulled the Cam after marking both the chain and the the one tooth I had to back up. Backed up the cam and the cam sprocket the one tooth. Replaced the tensioner. Rolled her around and.......Dead Nuts On both cam tower marks and TDC. WHEW!!:bowdown::bowdown:

I proceeded to replace the cam oiler's and had cleaned the tubes. It pays to have gun cleaning equipment as I used bore brushes and such with the cleaning rod and got them sparkly clean inside annd out. Put on the new oiler bits. Replaced the oilers bak on the cam towers and buttoned up the engine. New VC gaskets. Replaced the Distributor and it went slam bang in place the first try. Pays to mark the pointer (rotor bug) to something on the engine, (A mark on the water pump at TDC number 1, There are marks on the RB and the Dist, body for number 1, I also marked the Dit. Body where the RB pointed when removed. I set it to that mark and the Dist. slid right in and the RB lined up dead on!

Tomorrow I will reassemble the front of the engine. Alternator and Mtg. PS unit and Mtg. Belts, Fan and the radiator and she should be good to go for another 100,000 miles.

Some thought . If Rose has never been worked on, this is one of a few that made 200,000 miles on the original TC. The innards of the heads are discolored from oil but the TC was only 7 1/2 Degrees stretch. the guides were discolored, but not brittle or worn , a bit on the lower ends, the tensioner arm liner was worn about half way through at the lower end that contacts the chain first.

Anyway this is my What did you do to your 126 today post.

That's a helluva lot of work, man. Attaboy.
 

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Finally I am on my computer.

I spent Monday and tuesday putting in new upper guides in preparation for installing a new TC.

I want to shout out to Mike Ramay who talked me down yesterday afternoon. Thought I had done a big screw up, but it turned out I didn;t. Took Mike a few minutes to straighten me out and get me back down. Turns out I had done a rookie mistake by taking BOTH cam sprocketsoff at once,but in removing the driver's side my cam lock slipped and the cam moved backwards a bit. I had marked the chain and the sprockets on both, but when replacing the passenger side I inadvertantly put it on 2 teeth out. Luckily nothing bound up but I could not get the marks to align on both cam towers, Drivers side was dead on. pass. side was off a bit. I thought sure I had EFFED the whole thing. Quick call to Mike and we figured out I was out a tooth or two and no big deal. :crybaby2::thumbsup:

This morning I fed the new TC in and was out one tooth on the Pass. cam. pulled the Cam after marking both the chain and the the one tooth I had to back up. Backed up the cam and the cam sprocket the one tooth. Replaced the tensioner. Rolled her around and.......Dead Nuts On both cam tower marks and TDC. WHEW!!:bowdown::bowdown:

I proceeded to replace the cam oiler's and had cleaned the tubes. It pays to have gun cleaning equipment as I used bore brushes and such with the cleaning rod and got them sparkly clean inside annd out. Put on the new oiler bits. Replaced the oilers bak on the cam towers and buttoned up the engine. New VC gaskets. Replaced the Distributor and it went slam bang in place the first try. Pays to mark the pointer (rotor bug) to something on the engine, (A mark on the water pump at TDC number 1, There are marks on the RB and the Dist, body for number 1, I also marked the Dit. Body where the RB pointed when removed. I set it to that mark and the Dist. slid right in and the RB lined up dead on!

Tomorrow I will reassemble the front of the engine. Alternator and Mtg. PS unit and Mtg. Belts, Fan and the radiator and she should be good to go for another 100,000 miles.

Some thought . If Rose has never been worked on, this is one of a few that made 200,000 miles on the original TC. The innards of the heads are discolored from oil but the TC was only 7 1/2 Degrees stretch. the guides were discolored, but not brittle or worn , a bit on the lower ends, the tensioner arm liner was worn about half way through at the lower end that contacts the chain first.

Anyway this is my What did you do to your 126 today post.
Well done, Chadahar! I accidentally let a sprocket slip and just about freaked out. Glad Mike was there for you and that this project is behind you.
 

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You're probably right. He was likely measuring the stretch of the old chain. With the old chain and new guides/rail, being 'dead on' while being 7.5 out was confusing.
 

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Discussion Starter #30 (Edited)
My Home Internet service was restored this afternoon.
7 1/2° stretch wad old TC and old guide rails.New TC and new guides. Death nuts on both
cam tower marks and TDC.
Got her all back together. Turned her over a bit to build oil pressure, plugged on the coil wire and she fired right up.
Happiness is a sweet engine running and not making any other noises than normal.
Took her for a short spin and we found and passed that Striped Assed Ape. She runs great.
 

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Way to go, man. Nothing quite like the buzz one gets from satisfactorily completing an engine project, is there?
 

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When my buddies and I did engine rebuilding and improvement from the ground up many decades ago, it came to be a practical joke to slip into the other guy's garage and put a couple of random, very unidentifiable parts into the gasoline wash pan to create a moment of uncertainty as to whether all of the parts went back in.
 

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When my buddies and I did engine rebuilding and improvement from the ground up many decades ago, it came to be a practical joke to slip into the other guy's garage and put a couple of random, very unidentifiable parts into the gasoline wash pan to create a moment of uncertainty as to whether all of the parts went back in.
Man, that's cold... :D
 

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I didn't have any extra parts left over. That was the first good sign. The second was the engine turning over freely with the starter. It turned over fine by hand, but one never knows for sure. Third and final good sign, when she roared to life not making any unusual sounds.
I have to believe that this car was well cared for up to the last PO. He let her go to hell setting baking in the So CAL sun from 2001 until I got her in 2011.
The belief is founded in the oil pressure being never below 2 at a light and pegging 3 coming up to speed and cruising. I mention this as now at a light the OP needle doesn't jump around between 2 and 3, leading me to believe that the stretch in the old timing chain attributed to this movement, now very little fluctuation at a light. Though stained by oil residue the components under the valve covers are in very good repair, the cams the best I have ever seen, sans being new. The old timing chain and guides were just too recent to have 200,000 miles on them.
She averaged 9,300 miles a year from 1986 to 2007 with just 100 miles put on 2007 until I got her. Because she would not pass Smog, she sat in disrepair, her Registration paperwork pending at DMV, that ensuing time.
She still has original MB hose clamps on all hoses, except the overflow hose from radiator to reserve coolant tank.
 

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Yesterday I changed the EZL dial to N and did a timing Check. Supposed to be 14-18 Degrees at 600-750 RPM. Had left the Distributor locked on at TDC. Put the timing light on her and she is right on at 18 Degrees. Think I'll leave her be.
Also put in a 6000 RPM FPR like she came with and took a little drive. She acts like a new car, Hardly any traffic last evening so I let the horses out. All I'll say is that she hit the shift points on the speedometer dead on with the E/S switch in the S position. Shifted like it should and had the pavement been the right type, she'd have chirped the tires in Second and Third. She just dug in and went. Fastest I have ever driven Rose, been close, but when she shifted out of 3rd at the marks, I backed off. Good enough for me!

Rose is coming back!
 
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"The Rose"


Some say love, it is a river
That drowns the tender reed.
Some say love, it is a razor
That leaves your soul to bleed.
Some say love, it is a hunger,
An endless aching need.
I say love, it is a flower,
And you its only seed.

It's the heart afraid of breaking
That never learns to dance.
It's the dream afraid of waking
That never takes the chance.
It's the one who won't be taken,
Who cannot seem to give,
And the soul afraid of dyin'
That never learns to live.

When the night has been too lonely
And the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only
For the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter
Far beneath the bitter snows
Lies the seed that with the sun's love
In the spring becomes the rose.



-Bette Midler 1979
 

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Bondavi,
Pretty close.
I named Rose after that song. Her "spring" is coming
after a looong winter.

GreenT,
There was a 500SEL the same color combo as Rose in the Auction lot the day I picked her up. Don't. See that color combo much, then two at the same time.
 

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Hi
I really like to read about cars being saved from the junkyard, i found a SEC at the junkyard myself and this is very interesting reading for me.

I got a couple of pictures that may interest you:

The paintwork catalogue with the standard colours from 1986 and some pictures of a Gen1 500 SEC i found in a swedish magazine with a very similar color as yours, i think this red color looks fantastic on this car, especially with the AMG extras!

Best of luck with the restoration!
 

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