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I thought it was time to continue Rose's Story in a new thread.

Go here for the beginning of the Saga up to today:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1612585-rose-saga-begins.html

Hopefully we can keep some of the crapola out of this ongoing thread to document the time, effort, blood sweat and tears and grief, to bring Rose from the Auction yard where Bondavi saved her to getting her right once again.

I had depredations driving her to AZ the first time, as I had not driven her on a trip before. She, as usual surprised me with how well she di. Now she has made two RT from CA to AZ and will be making a third next week a RT from Chloride AZ Back to Acton.

Both Jonwhite99 and myself know how it feels to drive a great, but not very pretty, (read bad paint), car for a while. It is heartening to get good responses from folks along the way, that pay no matter to the paint, but to the car.

Bondavi is right these Gen II Euro 500SEC's are rare, great cars.
 

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Unloaded the BBS Lorinser 5 Spoke 3 piece 9J X 16 wheels and looked closely at the markings inside the lug cover. Clearly marked BBS for Lorinser. Also twoo are 8J X 16 wheels, but all measure 8 1/2 inches inside lip to inside lip. They are ET 11.
All marked Made in Germany. Chrome peeling badly on a couple outside barrels, but all will be stripped and polished, Centers will be stripped of the gold and powder coated Padgett Red to match Rose's body color.
I need to find the correct BBS sockets to remove the bolts and I need to find one complete bolt and nut as one is completely missing.
 

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Update: 11/07/2013
I have a call into James P. Baldwin, the person that is thought to have imported Rose. I talked to his executive secretary just now, gave her all the info I had and what she asked for. She will search her files to find any records that the Baldwins may have pertaining to Rose. She will call me back with her findings.
This is the last niggling piece of info will complete the research on Rose.
 

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Talked to James P. Baldwin yesterday. unfortunately he is not Rose's importer.
Pleasant gentleman.
So Rose's importer in now unknown except for the import sticker on the door jamb.The detailed carfax will have to do for the present time.
 

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I think I have one on Photobucket, but all it says is J. Baldwin. All of the early Smog tests were done in Yorba Linda. I do know for a fact that the car was in Niguel Shores development in Laguna Niguel in1997 because there is still the Niguel Shores Community Association Sticker on the inside of the winshield. Everything else is Dana Point or that area.

No big whoop, most do not know who imported their cars nor so much of their histories.
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Carfax tells me the day she got off the boat and the day she was sent to G & K and the date the DOT Bond was dropped. a lot more information than most get. Quite frankly I was amazed to see that info on the Carfax. Dr. Sternstruf(sic) did tell me the day she was purchased in Hamburg Germany,by a German Citizen. I do know who the last PO was.
So all in all a lot of information.

Feels good to be turning my attention to Rose.
 

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Baby gots new shoes!

Long story short, Blue's 220/55/390 Michelin VRX tires are so old that they are loosing air,weather checked and really not safe to be on the road. Coker makes new ones for $514 each, so I needed wheels and tires for Blue to be safe to drive. New wheels and tires were not in the budget. so I swapped the wheels and tires from Rose to Blue.
Rose's 3 piece staggered BBS/Lorinser 5 Spokes(don't know the correct Lorinser designator.), were pressed into action, even though they need to be stripped and refinished. I elected to go with good tires now, instead of just throwing something cheap on the rims. 225X50X16 fronts, 245X50X16 rears. I'll knock them down in the spring and get the wheels refinished, polished rims, Color coded centers. However Rose wears Gold centers nicely, but Chrome or Gold plated wheels is not my thing.
Rose will be lowered, that front wheel arch is tooo much.
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They look lovely on that car. Really nice, I even like the gold.
 

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Thanks Ian.
I can't wait to get the paint and body work done and have Rose presentable.
I think this color is about the only color that can pull off the Gold "bling." They're pretty nasty in the chrome peeling department up close and some of the Gold is peeling as well, but they are 1986-87 vintage. When I knock them down, I will have the lips stripped and polished, NO CHROME!, and the Centers Stripped and powder coated if they can Powder coat Pagett Red Metallic.
 

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Yeah the gold and the red really seems to work.
They are making the car look so much more chunky aren't they.
 

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Update: I am on the midst of changing out
The TC and upper guides. Waiting on parts.
So I thought I would clean up up the distributor
and rotor bug since I have the distributor out.
The cap had a lot of carbon on the posts. Cleaned
the posts with my Dremel tool. I picked up the rotor
bug to clean the carbon off the end. Toy amazement
the end was discolered,like patina, but NO carbon!
In all my years of working on vehicles, I have never
Seem a rotor big not carbines up, especially if
the cap posts are full of carbon.
Any thoughts on this?
 

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Huh? Auto correct messed you up here.
 

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Yeah it DID! Rotor bug had no carbon. I have
never seen this before.
 

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Unloaded the BBS Lorinser 5 Spoke 3 piece 9J X 16 wheels and looked closely at the markings inside the lug cover. Clearly marked BBS for Lorinser. Also twoo are 8J X 16 wheels, but all measure 8 1/2 inches inside lip to inside lip. They are ET 11.
All marked Made in Germany. Chrome peeling badly on a couple outside barrels, but all will be stripped and polished, Centers will be stripped of the gold and powder coated Padgett Red to match Rose's body color.
I need to find the correct BBS sockets to remove the bolts and I need to find one complete bolt and nut as one is completely missing.
"look ma... no cracks!!!" :D

nice score on the wheels. bbs rt :thumbsup:

i think they look "period correct" in the gold but will look even better when you shoot the centers body color

what "nuts / "bolts" are you referring to???

(now time to start hunting some more lorinser bits)
 

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"look ma... no cracks!!!" :D

nice score on the wheels. bbs rt :thumbsup:

i think they look "period correct" in the gold but will look even better when you shoot the centers body color

what "nuts / "bolts" are you referring to???

(now time to start hunting some more lorinser bits)
+1. Body color or silver.

Gold is period in a not nice way :)
 

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Thanks guys.
Probably go body color on the centers. I feel
that Rose's color may be one of the very few
colors to pull off the gold bling.
Lots to do before I worry about Lorinser bits
and center"s color.
Nuts And bolts I referred to are the center ririm
bolts. BBS has them and the sockets.
 

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Thanks guys.
Probably go body color on the centers. I feel
that Rose's color may be one of the very few
colors to pull off the gold bling.
Lots to do before I worry about Lorinser bits
and center"s color.
Nuts And bolts I referred to are the center ririm
bolts. BBS has them and the sockets.
copy that. gl with the car.

now wondering who else is rolling on these -- you, me, kodiak (his are 17s).. anyone else??
 

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I and Rose are proud to be in such company.
If I. can just get Rose to the level of your rides.
I do really like these wheels. They turn heads here in
Kingman. Would really like to know the correct designation
for this pattern Lorinser. All I know is Lorinser 5 Spoke 3 piece.
 

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I just caught it.
Mapearso called it,
BBS-RT, and not Lorinser even
though they were made for Lorinser.
These are different from the one
GreenT posted.
 
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