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Good afternoon all,

Ok I need some help here. I purchased an 89 560 SEL last summer. I could not pass this deal up. The car runs great, it has 110,000 miles on it. It was my mechanics customers car. It had timing chain done, exhaust, head gaskets, rear hydrolic suspension etc.. The seats were beat though. I resently purchased a 91 560 sel for parts. The interior is mint. Not one scratch or blem in the leather. You see were I am going with this right?!?!!

Now the fun part. I went to get some estimates to repaint my car. I live in northern NJ. Two shops said 3500 - 4000. They were not to specific how and what they would do. Then I went to two others. One gave me a written quotes of $8,000.00 and the other was $9500.00 The later of the four seems very high however he is was planning to do the following;

1. remove all moulding, grills, lights, rails, bumpers, etc... Stripped (I mean everything)
2. Remove front windshield and replace with a new one. Non Mercedes - $275.00. Mercedes OEM $600 - $700 from the dealer.
3. Paint the whole car black (040) origional color using the best paint. Made by the company who owns Glasurit. (Material 1200.00) two gallons of primer, two gallons of paint, two gallons of clear)
4. Paint all lower molding black (040)
5. Repaint my wheels. ($600)

I did see the work that this company can do. Their paint jobs are incredible. The lines are straight. I also saw his 69 Mustang GT fastback he completed. It was Great.

Can anyone let me know what they have paid for their car to be repainted. I was blown away by the $8000 - $9500.00 pricing. Also can you provide me any autobody shops that do great work but are more reasonably priced. All your help is greatly appreciated. Enclosed are my pics of the car.
 

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Ouch, that seems steep.

I can only provide input on items 2 & 5.

2. Had my windshield replaced about six months ago. Paid about $275. So the price he quoted you on that is spot-on.
5. When I bought my car, the previous owner gave me the original rims (15", 9? holes) that were in pretty bad condition, paint peeling and curb scrubbed. I had a paint shop sandblast and repaint them for $50/rim. They did a nice job and I think the $600 for the job is a bit high.

Good luck on finding a more reasonable paint shop.
 

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I had my '87 560SEC painted by a local guy in the SF area. Between the two of us, we took off everything removable before sanding & painting. All that was left was the chrome around the windshield, rear window, and over the doors. He used a PPG paint, with some extra clear on the car since he knew I'd be polishing it lots more than normal.

The painter and I put the bumpers, one headlight and on tail light back on the car so I could drive it home, everything else was in the car or trunk. It took me three days to reassemble the car when he was done painting and polishing, but it was worth it. I used new gaskets wherever possible and cleaned everything before it went back on. I saved a couple thousand dollars in painting costs by doing much of the work.

One significant suggestion - don't use a Mercedes color. I went with Chrysler Bright Silver instead of MB Bright Silver and can get touch-up paint anywhere that matches perfectly. The painter missed one small area on the trunk spoiler that I spray painted with a can of Duplicolor from the local auto supply house, and then put some blending clear over it. After sanding and polishing, you cannot tell where I painted.

Good luck with your paint job! Don't be afraid to get your hands dirty and you should be able to get the expensive paint job for a price much closer to the cheaper quotes.

 

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Those last two quotes are very high. They are quoting you the price of a show car paint job but I don't think they will give you a show car job. Find other shops. They are seeing money when you walk-up and are not quoting you reasonable rates.

Don't let them strip the car to bare metal. Do you really think their primer is better than the factory's? I would only have them stip areas that have rust. By stripping areas that are not rusty, you are actually introducing a chance for rust or corrosion to form on the metal. Have them sand and recoat.

The first two with estimates of $3,500 to $4,000 are right on par with what the price should be. I've been looking at doing the same to my car too. However, if you look further, you will probably find someone to do it for $3,000.
 

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All the quotes are good,

I took my 1987 300 SDL to a shop in Alexandria, VA right off of Jefferson Davis Hwy, and the after a good walk around and thorough look at my car the guy said without, a stutter 16 thousand dollars.

He would have taken the car down to bare metal and replaced every bit of chrome with new parts.

He did work almost exclusively for dealerships and complete restorations, he was giving me a break too.

I told him that he could have saved both of us a hell of a lot of time by telling me what league his shop was in.

Me, I'm going to Maaco...
 

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Mine was repainted about 8 years ago by a shop in NJ --- they did it according to MB specs and removed everything --- $11,000. I got the lead thru Ray Catena (so I don't know if the price included some 'consideration' for them, if you know what I mean.) I was delighted by the results!!!!
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Axelwulff,
I thought the same thing to repaint the rims. The windshield I think is very reasonable for a Benz, granted it is not sekurit glass that came with the car from Mercedes. I guess that is the same type of glass as we use in the Americas. It's only glass.

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if u do have love of labour.. i did recommend u get ur hands dirty and start ripping everything off the car.. even the engine, seats and interior.. then ship the car on a flat bed to the paint shop for a nice over baked paint job and then reassemble everything back...
 

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TeoTeodore,

I do know of Ray Catena down in Edison. Can you let me know if your price included painting your lower body molding. Also, how is your paint today, still beautiful?

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It was a recommendation from Catena --- not 'Ray' themselves (I wish I could give you more info, but the records no longer exist). It included everything and it was and is perfect 8 years later. Forgot if I enclosed a photo, but here's another:

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The price you have been quoted should result in a very sharp, 1st rate paint job...
Perhaps not quite concourse quality, but close enough for a car that will be driven on the street. At that price there will be enough $$ involved for the shop to do All the necessary prep, and finish work to get the job near perfect.

4-5K will generally get you a good paint job, one that will suit 98% of the public..it all depends how anal you are and what you can overlook.

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TeoTeodore,

Your car looks sweet. That paint does not look 8 years old. Well the question is should I bite the bullet or not. I will find out if I can strip the car, send it to him and then have him paint it. Then I will put it back together. If he can come down somewhat it would be nice. [V][8][?] In the interum, I will look around as well.

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Mike,
What was the total cost of your paint job and how long ago was it.
 
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