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Hi,

I have 2002 w208 elegance, and I couldnt find the solutions for these on search so I would like to ask you following:

I am trying to remove instrument cluster. I dont have the lever to pull out (adjust) the wheel. Did someone with same model succeeded to remove instrument cluster, without removing the entire wheel ? If so, please explain me how..

Also, If I remove the cluster without removing the wheel, is it safe to disconnect the cables from cluster without disconnecting the ground from battery ?

Another thing, is there a way to check (or change) the radio code.. If I do all this above, I want to be sure that I have a valid radio code card (without removing the radio to see its serial..), so is there a way I can check or change the the code in computer's settings ? I have audio 10 cd.

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I reviewed all that, and a lot of topics, but there is a missing picture how to move the cluster between the wheel and original cluster position...

I read that I have to disconnect the ground from battery if I want to remove the wheel, (not to crash airbag or its light), but if the key is away from ignition and if I remove the cluster without removing the wheel, will the Check engine light (or some other) appear when I connect back the cables ?
 

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Hi,

I have 2002 w208 elegance, and I couldnt find the solutions for these on search so I would like to ask you following:

I am trying to remove instrument cluster. I dont have the lever to pull out (adjust) the wheel. Did someone with same model succeeded to remove instrument cluster, without removing the entire wheel ? If so, please explain me how..
I have NOT done this - but the MB WIS procedure IS to first remove the steering wheel, including airbag. That means it is quite a task, as you have to remove the center bolt which is torqued @ 80Nm. If you can manage without taking the wheel off (as on the W209) please take some photos and post here for the benefit of the forum!

Also, If I remove the cluster without removing the wheel, is it safe to disconnect the cables from cluster without disconnecting the ground from battery ?
Again, the WIS always tells you to disconnect the battery negative terminal. Especially if working near the airbag!

However, in principle, if you keep the key out of the ignition, you should be OK

Another thing, is there a way to check (or change) the radio code.. If I do all this above, I want to be sure that I have a valid radio code card (without removing the radio to see its serial..), so is there a way I can check or change the the code in computer's settings ? I have audio 10 cd.
I don't know how to find the radio code... but this thread gives you some ideas about how NOT to lose the radio voltage if the battery is disconnected.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1314443-battery-diy-without-losing-settings.html
 

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At this moment I am stucked at the disconnecting cables..

Can someone please point me to how to disconect the cable:


I tried to pull it out, but it doesnt work.. Is there some lever or something , or I must pull harder ?
 

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I tried to pull it out, but it doesnt work.. Is there some lever or something , or I must pull harder ?
No - don't pull harder...:eek:

The WIS says "unlock and remove the electrical connections". The MB connectors are always held together with a clip of some kind so that they cannot fall apart. If you study the connector assembly it should become clear - but do not use force...
 

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Discussion Starter · #8 · (Edited)
by "clip" I think they mean on grey plastic on picture in post above.. But I dont know how to remove it..

Edit: I forgot to writte that the cables are short so I cant pull out the cluster more without disconnecting cables.. I tried to pull cables a little, but simply, they cant be pulled, and I dont want to use too much force.. I dont want to rip some cable..
 

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The 2 main wiring harnesses of the cluster held in place by a fastening clip that you need to swing away from the actual harness connection for the harness to come-out at the back. The wires are not long enough for you to pull the cluster away from its place without disconnecting these 2 main wiring harnesses first.
 

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I haven't done this one myself, but I am assuming you are wanting to disconnect the two big wiring connectors?
Try pushing them it a bit - sometimes the connector has a little clip or hook that is really only visible when you push the clip in and you see where it is separate from the rest. You might need to push the clip in with a very small screwdriver to depress it enough to pull through the gap.
 

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Yes, the cables are too short to remove the cluster without disconnecting them.

So I need to disconnect the cables.. There are a lot of posts describing how to replace bulbs and fix the pixels, but there is no explicit tutorial how to remove cluster :)

I found how to remove clips here

It may be useful to someone else too.. Now my quest is going on :)
 

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^^ .. thanks, - that's interesting information for the forum. So we now know:

1. You do NOT have to remove the steering wheel to get the IC out. (I wonder why the WIS thinks that you do?)

2. You have to depress a little black piece to separate the 2 connectors used in there.

What is your reason for pulling the cluster out? :)
 

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I want to try to repair pixels on my cluster. I found DIY but it starts from the cluster on the table :)

So today I am going to disconnect the cables and try to remove the cluster without moving the wheel. The cables are short so I cant pull cluster with connected cables.. I read somewhere that you can pull out by pulling the cluster as much as you can near wheel and then rotate wheel with the cluster into one side and like that to remove cluster..

I hope it will work.. otherwise removing the wheel remains only possible solution
 

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You don't have to remove the wheel at all but to make it easier for yourself, make sure you pull the steering wheel all the way out towards you. There is a handle under the steering wheel to do that. This gives a bit more room to maneuver the cluster and get it out.
 

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Unfortunately I dont have that handle, only plastic with no handle :(
 

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Look carefully mate, I believe all W208s have the steering adjustment handle.
 

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I will take a look again.

Here is the link (for older model) how I wat to remove cluster
 
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