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I managed to score a set of Recaro Orthos. The leather looks to be in fairly decent shape, although not new by any means and could use a refresh. It is also black and my interior is Brazil (dark brown). At some point in the future, I might want to re-cover them, but for now, I'd like to consider dyeing them.

What can folks tell me about dyeing leather? Is it a DYI job or best left to the professionals? If DYI, what products are recommended? Any helpful tips based on hard-won experience?

If professional help is needed, what does it generally run?

Thanks in advance.
 

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I used Leatherique dye, a water-based product that you can paint on with a brush. It worked well, but it was a same-color refresh, not a color change as OB contemplates.

I recall MBGraham posted about sucessfully doing a color change on a centre console. Also, John Roncallo did a complete interior color change on Samson. Nobby too went from green to tan using spray dye.


A search of the forum will surely be helpful.
 

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I managed to score a set of Recaro Orthos. The leather looks to be in fairly decent shape, although not new by any means and could use a refresh. It is also black and my interior is Brazil (dark brown). At some point in the future, I might want to re-cover them, but for now, I'd like to consider dyeing them.

What can folks tell me about dyeing leather? Is it a DYI job or best left to the professionals? If DYI, what products are recommended? Any helpful tips based on hard-won experience?

If professional help is needed, what does it generally run?

Thanks in advance.
I doubt you'd be able to dye them brown. I failed at this with a saddle a while back. Brown to black yes but not the other way. You would need to use a leather paint as others have done. Good luck.
 

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You would need to use a leather paint as others have done.
Well, most of the "dyes" sold for auto seats are actually paint, in that they are surface coats rather than a penetrant. The main differences among them seem to be the carrier/solvent and application method. The water-based Leatherique I used was simple to apply and clean up. Others have preferred petro-based aerosol cans, despite their messiness.

I think the factory seat finish was likely a combination of dye and paint.
 

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Im with Dugald, just my opinion but I did alot of reasearch on this topic before deciding to use Leatherique for my interal refurb. The difference between leatherique and "paints" is black and white.
Leatherique is a total rejuvenation of the leather itself prior to dyeing. It transformed my 35 yr old seats from being a hard vinyl like feel back to a soft leather feel. It cant perform miracles on dried out cardboard like leather but I was surprised with the overall result.
Leather being a natural product over time looses all of its natural "oils" and becomes hard, harsh chemicals will only cause the leather to dry further. Adding a layer of paint over the top only effectively seals the surface and stops any subsequent treatments penetrating into the leather and IMO most painted finishes turn the seats into a vinyl like appearanceand feel and destroy seeing the grain in the leather.
I had new side bolsters replaced on one seat, cream leather was the only leather they could find that "matched" the existing grain.
Had no problem changing colour. The dye itself is like water, I used a small peice of micro fibre cloth to apply several very thin coats. Upon finishing I can still use my thumb and forefinger and pinch a bit of the leather and roll it around without any fracturing of the dye. I dont think you would have a problem with going from black to dark brown.
The whole cleaning and rejuvenation process is quite involved but well worth it.
Found their pristine clean product to be the best vinyl cleaner I've ever used as well,
used it on my headlining and A & C pillars.
Also used the dye to redo my centre console, sun visors and rear parcel shelf carpet.
Two years on, there is slight dulling of the drivers seat, but with this stuff its easy to give a quick "retouch" best of all being water based has an infinite shelf life.
I use their rejuvenator oil once a year to keep my seats nice and soft.
I spose the only criticism is that when first doing this the appearance is a little "shiny" but does tone down, with a coat of bees wax does give a more "mattish" appearance"
check out their website:
Home Page | Leatherique Restoration Products
According to them the original dye was nitro cellulose based which over time degrades and causes all of the hazing and cracking associated with this type of process.
The Australian branch was in Sydney, i sent a swatch of my colour even though they had all the interior colours on file, plus one of my sunvisors which was sunburnt to match this colour exactly.
All of the above sounds like a company sponsored endorsement, its not, this is just one of those products where i was so happy with the results I would happily recommend to others. Will post some pics when I get home.

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Hey Lurker, do you reckon it will work on rejuvenating the transmission cover piece that surrounds the hand brake? Mine is faded and discoloured and looks like s**t, but the rest of the console is good. (palomino colour) I was going to have it covered in matching vinyl.
 

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I used Kiwi black leather dye on my SLK's seats. They were in good condition with the exception to the fact that a few spots had light crack marks. THe leater dye simply made those dissappear, or at least less visible. Overall very nice on black.
 

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Hey Lurker, do you reckon it will work on rejuvenating the transmission cover piece that surrounds the hand brake? Mine is faded and discoloured and looks like s**t, but the rest of the console is good. (palomino colour) I was going to have it covered in matching vinyl.
I used Vinyl Upholstery Paint | Leather Paint | Interior Trim Paint | Paint For Vinyl spray paint on the centre console and the hand brake cover, one of their standard colours turned out to be a perfact match, I guess they will have a distrubuter in Oz.

 

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Aussiemerc,
leatherique no dramas on console and brake cover. used it for the sunvisors, rear parcel shelf too, for the console didnt even have to take it out of the car, as mentioned previously a microfibre cloth & a few light coats..
Second lot of pics, colour change on repaired seat, redid all seats.
The guy at PPC in sydney is a Aust distributor, south african guy named rob, really helpful.
If you are going to use this stuff, get the rejuvenator oil & pristine clean, highly recommend even just doing this to your interior at the same time. Was going to re dye front, centre and rear pillars but after cleaning there was no need, prior to this i tried all sorts of other products with no joy.

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Thanks for that Lurker.It certainly looks good. Your interior looks like the same colour as mine. I'll give that a try. If I'm not happy with the result I can still go the other way and use matching vinyl for that little brake surround. Mine is all pink and blotchy like your "before" pic. Its strange that my transmission console is still good. I suppose until now I've been put off the paint/dye route because I've seen several horrible flaky examples. Thanks also Race D yours looks good too.
 

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Aussiemerc,
this stuff dosent flake or chip the coating is "flexible' i dont have any carpet or anything in the centre console, 3 years of keys, coins and all sorts of things and looks as good as the day i did it.
FYI my interior colour was bamboo, although there was a slight difference between the seats and door panels/ console etc,
I sent several "sample" bits & pieces for them to be colour matched exactly.
PPC has all the merc colours on file they should have no trouble matching yours
Ring the guy Rob and have a chat to him....

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