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I was curious if someone has made a machine like a pressure bleeder that would flush the transmission out without having to run the engine while doing the procedure. was thinking of trying to build an attachment from a old filter from a 722.6 tranny, some glue and pvc fittings. I just didn't know if the pump would allow the fluid to go through while the car is stopped, or would it be unable to go through the cooler, and running the car is the only way.

I have 2 cars that seem to need a change. My car appears to have never had the trans fluid changed. The black tab is still on the dipstick tube. Seems to shift fine according to the mechanic that did the PPi. My grandma's car needs a change as well. I know that it hasn't been changed for about 80k for sure if not more. She and I were talking about it, and she wants me to do it. The dealer prices were well over crazy. Also, the one dealer for sure is still pushing the 'sealed for life' carp.... grrr...
 

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Ok. I've got the parts in my order cart. Genuine mercedes part for $14 cad... lol
 

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For those looking in Alberta and Saskatchewan, and maybe BC, UFA Petroleum has Shell ATF 134 for $6.67 cad a quart.
 

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Looks easy enough for my from the videos and pics that I've looked at. Oil is ordered for both cars mentioned. Now, looking for transfer case oil, diff fluid, brake fluid, and coolant. Does anyone know the most recent MB spec numbers for those items for both of the cars mentioned??

I've got an idea for a tool for flushing the old fluid out from the banjo bolt. When I get one made, I'll show it on the forum.
 

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Thanks, Noodles. Do you know if the DOT 4+ and diff oil is good for the 97 e420 as well?? And the coolant? I'd bet that the brake fluid hasn't been changed in that cor for about 8 years. Good that I live in a very dry climate, and the car isn't used much. It's grandma's go to church car. I've been struggling to find the info on the current MB spec for that car.

I have a pressure bleeder on order, and I have purchased 2/3 of the STAR system. I'm waiting on Paul's contact to get back to me about the mux.

Does anyone know if 12 ton a piece jackstands are heavy enough to hold the car up, or will they fold like bad origami under the car?? :p
 

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The Dot 4+ is good to use on youre W210. The coolant is easliy substituted with Zerex G05. It is avalable at many big box parts stores and also at Amazon for a decent price.

The jack stands you listed will hold up the car with no worries at all.
I hope you realize that the question about the jackstands was a joke... lol I"m only saying this so that everyone here doesn't think I'm an idiot...

Thanks for your help.

I"m looking at building an attachment tool for flushing out the torque converter/rad/cooler lines without doing the nut and screw clamp attached to the return banjo bolt thingy... I'd rather have something I can thread on easily. Got the tap for cutting the M14x1.5 threads. Just have to get a bit of time at the lathe to cut the body.
 

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On the 97 E420, there is a drain plug for the torque converter. Very easy to locate by turning engine clockwise (facing engine) with a 27mm socket on the harmonic balancer bolt. Might be better/safer than flushing an old transmission. Your call.

You can check the pilot bushing by flipping white lever down and taking the plug out of socket. If it's leaking there will be fluid inside. I prefer not to change it out unless it's leaking. Less chance of stripping the small bolt. I do check mine on a regular bases. Again your call.

I don't use jack stand anymore, even though I have a very good set. I just don't trust them especially when I'm yanking real hard on a bolt. This is what I use (no way it's going to tip over!):
I have looked at the idea of using blocks like that. But as I want to bleed the brake system while I have it up, I've been looking to take all 4 wheels off at one time... Setting tires on boards doesn't seem to be compatible with that idea.
 

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I have eight blocks. If I need to take off wheels, I just put the blocks under the jack pads points by lifting from the front cross member, differential or factory jack holes with grade eight bolts.

One advantage I found with blocks is that I can safely work on my sloped driveway if I need to. Changing fuel related items is one example I don't want to do inside the garage.

Whichever way you choice, be safe.
It's a good point. Thank you from bringing that up. The stands I was referring to have a 12" x 16" bases and are rated fro 24,000 pounds a piece. They're from my days doing brakes and suspensions on semi trailers. I used them on big machines, etc. The blocks you have however have a larger surface area at the top. There may be some added safety in that. But, that's nothing I can't change with a welder and some 1/2" x 6" x 6" plate...
 
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I am about to do a complete transmission fluid flush and I have seen on other threads members talking about using 236.10 in old transmissions (mine has 220K Km) instead of the 236.14. Could someone confirm that this is better suited for old transmissions than the new upgraded ATF 236.14 despite the fact that MB claims 236.14 is backward compatible?
I have as of yet to find anyone stocking the 236.10 fluid. Might it be better?? Maybe...... But.... Unobtanium....
 
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